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Re: [lofo List] Re: dates for a food event
What about a stream of workshops on the theme of cooking local foods - this
could involve local cooks (such as the woman who owns the birch hills
restaurant) or Amy Jo Ehman who writes about local food or a local catering
group who uses local affordable food for menus and to generate money for
their families. Maybe we can pay or get sponsor for a celebrity cook from
toronto and use him/her to attract a large public attendance at a special
event assoctated with the conference.
K
On 8:53:09 am 03/08/09 Don Mitchell <donmitchell@sasktel.net> wrote:
> Daryl and all,
>
> The Saskatchewan provincial Food Secure conference was originally
> targeted for May but we've moved it back to fall (probably Oct
> 2nd-3rd) to allow more lead time for planning and promotion. It looks
> like SIAT Palliser campus in Moose Jaw will be willing to partner
> with us.
> We want to develop a strong range of workshop options to broaden the
> network of participation especially among producers and urban food
> activists from around the province.
>
> don
>
> .
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daryl Hepting" <dhh@cs.uregina.ca>
> To: "Local Food Directory Project" <lofo@cs.uregina.ca>
> Cc: "Nettie Wiebe" <nettie.wiebe@usask.ca>; "'Don Mitchell'"
> <donmitchell@sasktel.net>
> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 11:58 PM
> Subject: [lofo List] Re: dates for a food event
>
>
> > Hi;
> >
> > Sure. I had in mind that Food Secure Saskatchewan was meeting in
> > May. The October dates sound fine, too, though I may not be around.
> >
> >> Lets be as synergistic as possible.
> >
> > I agree wholeheartedly.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Daryl
> > --
> > On 7-Mar-09, at 9:04 PM, Cathy Holtslander wrote:
> >
> >> Linking with the FSS conference sounds like a top-knotch idea, as
> >> it brings an existing network of food people together, and may
> >> well have some $$ resources in place already. I think it would
> >> be a better fit than Agribition, which tends to draw a crowd
> >> that really likes giant tractors.
> >> Cathy
> >>
> >> Quoting Don Mitchell <donmitchell@sasktel.net>:
> >>> Hi to all,,
> >>>
> >>> I'm interested in this thread of discussion. I should let you
> >>> know that we
> >>> (Food Secure Saskatchewan) are planning a provincial conference
> >>> on Food Security in which a workshop on grass-fed beef or red
> >>> meat production could
> >>> be a highlight. Out tentative dates are October 2nd and 3rd. We
> >>> are looking
> >>> at a wide range of workshop themes promiting the local food
> >>> systems. The
> >>> event, at this point, loks like it will be located in Moose Jaw.
> >>> (Alternately it may be in Regina but this will be decided before
> >>> the end of
> >>> March.)
> >>>
> >>> If we can include a workshop on sustainable red meat productin
> >>> we would be
> >>> very interested.
> >>> Don Mitchell
> >>> for Food Secure Saskatchewan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jason Freeman" <jason@farmerdirect.coop>
> >>> To: "Nettie Wiebe" <nettie.wiebe@usask.ca>; "Local Food
> >>> Directory Project"
> >>> <lofo@cs.uregina.ca>
> >>> Cc: "Local Food Directory Project" <lofo@cs.uregina.ca>
> >>> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:54 PM
> >>> Subject: RE: [lofo List] Dubious 'Scientific' Study Grass Fed
> >>> versus Grain
> >>> Fed Livestock
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > In my thinking the goal would be to connect members of the
> >>> public with
> >>> > the farmers...so direct sales for the farmers and consumer
> >>> education
> >>> > would be the major goals of the event. >
> >>> > If the end of October works for everybody by that time local
> >>> sustainable
> >>> > food should be red-hot, judging by all the media concerning
> >>> local food
> >>> > and the state of the world economy. So, perhaps we could see
> >>> 500 or more
> >>> > people who are serious about purchasing local and sustainable
> >>> meat come
> >>> > to this event. >
> >>> > People are in to it, they want to meet the farmers. >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: Nettie Wiebe [mailto:nettie.wiebe@usask.ca]
> >>> > Sent: March 6, 2009 11:52 AM
> >>> > To: Local Food Directory Project; Jason Freeman
> >>> > Cc: Local Food Directory Project
> >>> > Subject: Re: [lofo List] Dubious 'Scientific' Study Grass Fed
> >>> versus
> >>> > Grain Fed Livestock
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks for your input, Jason. As a small cow-calf organic beef
> >>> > operation, we would be interested in the kind of workshop you
> >>> > are proposing - at least if it is organized during a season
> >>> when we can take
> >>> > time away from the farm. > Nettie Wiebe
> >>> >
> >>> > Quoting Jason Freeman <jason@farmerdirect.coop>:
> >>> >
> >>> >> Hi Darryl,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I'm a little concerned with the thread regarding the supposed
> >>> >> GHG benefits of grain versus grass fed livestock. >>
> >>> >> The article did not go into enough detail regarding how the
> >>> > 'scientists'
> >>> >> derived the volume of methane produced between Grass and
> >>> >> grain fed cattle. It appeared they simply derived volume
> >>> based on a calorie per
> >>> >> calorie basis. >>
> >>> >> A study last year pointed out that lamb raised in New Zealand
> >>> >> but consumed in the UK represented less GHG than lamb raised
> >>> and consumed
> >>> >> in the UK. The main reason was that the New Zealand lamb was
> >>> raised
> >>> >> and finished on grass and the UK on grain. >>
> >>> >> Mammals, including ourselves, tend not to emit that much
> >>> methane when
> >>> >> we eat a diet consistent with our physiology...meaning we
> >>> >> fart and burp less. Cows are no different. It is extremely
> >>> >> dubious to claim that cows designed to eat grass actually
> >>> >> contribute to GHG versus grain fed cattle especially in feed
> >>> lots where you have all sorts of
> >>> >> health problems such as acidosis. >>
> >>> >> The proper management of manure and pasture actually
> >>> >> increases the farms soil organic matter and therefore one
> >>> should see a net reduction
> >>> >
> >>> >> of GHG from a properly managed grass fed operation. I would
> >>> absolutely
> >>> >
> >>> >> agree that multi-species livestock management is the way to
> >>> >> go but this needs the development of a local food system to
> >>> >> make it financially sustainable. >> Of course over grazing
> >>> damages pastures but the whole point is to
> >>> >> manage your farm properly. >>
> >>> >> I believe grain fed can also reduce GHG by increasing soil
> >>> >> organic matter if the feeding is done on an organic farm from
> >>> grain grown on
> >>> >> the farm with proper manure and pasture management. This is my
> >>> >> experience at farmer direct which needs to be further
> >>> quantified. A
> >>> >> hybrid of grass/grain may end up being the most efficient way
> >>> for an
> >>> >> organic family farm, on the prairies, to utilize all of their
> >>> >> resources to achieve economic sustainability given various
> >>> market and
> >>> >> weather fluctuations. For example, if you have a mixed
> >>> >> operation, growing grain and raising grass-fed cattle, but
> >>> >> your crop ends up being feed quality and the feed market
> >>> price is unprofitable...what do
> >>> >
> >>> >> you do, because you are a grass operation you can't feed the
> >>> grain to
> >>> > your cattle. >> So you other option is to hold over the grain
> >>> until the feed markets
> >>> >> increase which then puts you in a speculative position. >>
> >>> >> Maybe its time for a one day symposium regarding a local
> >>> organic meat
> >>> >> system up at the University. There is a lot of really exciting
> >>> >> activity going on in Saskatchewan with people like Mark, Clear
> >>> Creek,
> >>> >> Keith Neu and a number of other groups who are raising organic
> >>> >> livestock for sale in local/Sask markets. The farmers could
> >>> >> share their visions on what constitutes healthy and
> >>> sustainable livestock
> >>> >> production and sale and where they want to head in the
> >>> >> future. The goal would be to attract as many members of the
> >>> public as possible so
> >>> >> we can make the links to build this market. >>
> >>> >> Just some thoughts. >> Best Regards,
> >>> >> Jason
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