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Re: [lofo List] Re: dates for a food event



All good suggestions!


----- Original Message ----- From: <karen@chep.org>
To: "Local Food Directory Project" <lofo@cs.uregina.ca>
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [lofo List] Re: dates for a food event



What about a stream of workshops on the theme of cooking local foods - this
could involve local cooks (such as the woman who owns the birch hills
restaurant) or Amy Jo Ehman who writes about local food or a local catering
group who uses local affordable food for menus and to generate money for
their families.  Maybe we can pay or get sponsor for a celebrity cook from
toronto and use him/her to attract a large public attendance at a special
event assoctated with the conference.

K

On 8:53:09 am 03/08/09 Don Mitchell <donmitchell@sasktel.net> wrote:
Daryl and all,

The Saskatchewan provincial Food Secure conference was originally
targeted for May but we've moved it back to fall (probably Oct
2nd-3rd) to allow more lead time for planning and promotion. It looks
like SIAT Palliser campus in Moose Jaw will be willing to partner
with us.
We want to develop a strong range of workshop options to broaden the
network of participation especially among producers and urban food
activists from around the province.

don

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Daryl Hepting" <dhh@cs.uregina.ca>
To: "Local Food Directory Project" <lofo@cs.uregina.ca>
Cc: "Nettie Wiebe" <nettie.wiebe@usask.ca>; "'Don Mitchell'"
<donmitchell@sasktel.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 11:58 PM
Subject: [lofo List] Re: dates for a food event


>  Hi;
>
>  Sure.  I had in mind that Food Secure Saskatchewan was meeting in
>  May. The October dates sound fine, too, though I may not be around.
>
>>  Lets be as synergistic as possible.
>
>  I agree wholeheartedly.
>
>  Best regards,
>  Daryl
>  --
>  On 7-Mar-09, at 9:04 PM, Cathy Holtslander wrote:
>
>>  Linking with the FSS conference sounds like a top-knotch idea, as
>>  it brings an existing network of food people together, and may
>>  well  have some $$ resources in place already. I think it would
>>  be a  better fit than Agribition, which tends to draw a crowd
>>  that really  likes giant tractors.
>>  Cathy
>>
>>  Quoting Don Mitchell <donmitchell@sasktel.net>:
>>>  Hi to all,,
>>>
>>>  I'm interested in this thread of discussion. I should let you
>>>  know  that we
>>>  (Food Secure Saskatchewan) are planning a provincial conference
>>>  on  Food Security in which a workshop on grass-fed beef or red
>>>  meat  production could
>>>  be a highlight. Out tentative dates are October 2nd and 3rd. We
>>>  are looking
>>>  at a wide range of workshop themes promiting the local food
>>>  systems. The
>>>  event, at this point, loks like it will be located in Moose Jaw.
>>>  (Alternately it may be in Regina but this will be decided before
>>>  the end of
>>>  March.)
>>>
>>>  If we can include a workshop on sustainable red meat productin
>>>  we  would be
>>>  very interested.
>>>  Don Mitchell
>>>  for Food Secure Saskatchewan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: "Jason Freeman" <jason@farmerdirect.coop>
>>>  To: "Nettie Wiebe" <nettie.wiebe@usask.ca>; "Local Food
>>>  Directory Project"
>>>  <lofo@cs.uregina.ca>
>>>  Cc: "Local Food Directory Project" <lofo@cs.uregina.ca>
>>>  Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:54 PM
>>>  Subject: RE: [lofo List] Dubious 'Scientific' Study Grass Fed
>>>  versus Grain
>>>  Fed Livestock
>>>
>>>
>>> >  In my thinking the goal would be to connect members of the
>>>  public with
>>> >  the farmers...so direct sales for the farmers and consumer
>>>  education
>>> >  would be the major goals of the event. >
>>> >  If the end of October works for everybody by that time local
>>>  sustainable
>>> >  food should be red-hot, judging by all the media concerning
>>>  local food
>>> >  and the state of the world economy. So, perhaps we could see
>>>  500 or more
>>> >  people who are serious about purchasing local and sustainable
>>>  meat come
>>> >  to this event. >
>>> >  People are in to it, they want to meet the farmers. >
>>> >  -----Original Message-----
>>> >  From: Nettie Wiebe [mailto:nettie.wiebe@usask.ca]
>>> >  Sent: March 6, 2009 11:52 AM
>>> >  To: Local Food Directory Project; Jason Freeman
>>> >  Cc: Local Food Directory Project
>>> >  Subject: Re: [lofo List] Dubious 'Scientific' Study Grass Fed
>>>  versus
>>> >  Grain Fed Livestock
>>> >
>>> >  Thanks for your input, Jason.  As a small cow-calf organic beef
>>> >  operation, we would be interested in the kind of workshop you
>>> >  are proposing - at least if it is organized during a season
>>>  when we can take
>>> >  time away from the farm. > Nettie Wiebe
>>> >
>>> >  Quoting Jason Freeman <jason@farmerdirect.coop>:
>>> >
>>> >>  Hi Darryl,
>>> >>
>>> >>  I'm a little concerned with the thread regarding the supposed
>>> >>  GHG benefits of grain versus grass fed livestock. >>
>>> >>  The article did not go into enough detail regarding how the
>>> >  'scientists'
>>> >>  derived the volume of methane produced between Grass and
>>> >>  grain fed cattle. It appeared they simply derived volume
>>>  based on a calorie per
>>> >>  calorie basis. >>
>>> >>  A study last year pointed out that lamb raised in New Zealand
>>> >>  but consumed in the UK represented less GHG than lamb raised
>>>  and consumed
>>> >>  in the UK. The main reason was that the New Zealand lamb was
>>>  raised
>>> >>  and finished on grass and the UK on grain. >>
>>> >>  Mammals, including ourselves, tend not to emit that much
>>>  methane when
>>> >>  we eat a diet consistent with our physiology...meaning we
>>> >>  fart and burp less. Cows are no different. It is extremely
>>> >>  dubious to claim that cows designed to eat grass actually
>>> >>  contribute to GHG versus grain fed cattle especially in feed
>>>  lots where you have all sorts of
>>> >>  health problems such as acidosis. >>
>>> >>  The proper management of manure and pasture actually
>>> >>  increases the farms soil organic matter and therefore one
>>>  should see a net reduction
>>> >
>>> >>  of GHG from a properly managed grass fed operation. I would
>>>  absolutely
>>> >
>>> >>  agree that multi-species livestock management is the way to
>>> >>  go but this needs the development of a local food system to
>>> >>  make it financially sustainable. >> Of course over grazing
>>>  damages pastures but the whole point is to
>>> >>  manage your farm properly. >>
>>> >>  I believe grain fed can also reduce GHG by increasing soil
>>> >>  organic matter if the feeding is done on an organic farm from
>>>  grain grown on
>>> >>  the farm with proper manure and pasture management. This is my
>>> >>  experience at farmer direct which needs to be further
>>>  quantified. A
>>> >>  hybrid of grass/grain may end up being the most efficient way
>>>  for an
>>> >>  organic family farm, on the prairies, to utilize all of their
>>> >>  resources to achieve economic sustainability given various
>>>  market and
>>> >>  weather fluctuations. For example, if you have a mixed
>>> >>  operation, growing grain and raising grass-fed cattle, but
>>> >>  your crop ends up being feed quality and the feed market
>>>  price is unprofitable...what do
>>> >
>>> >>  you do, because you are a grass operation you can't feed the
>>>  grain to
>>> >  your cattle. >> So you other option is to hold over the grain
>>>  until the feed markets
>>> >>  increase which then puts you in a speculative position. >>
>>> >>  Maybe its time for a one day symposium regarding a local
>>>  organic meat
>>> >>  system up at the University. There is a lot of really exciting
>>> >>  activity going on in Saskatchewan with people like Mark, Clear
>>>  Creek,
>>> >>  Keith Neu and a number of other groups who are raising organic
>>> >>  livestock for sale in local/Sask markets. The farmers could
>>> >>  share their visions on what constitutes healthy and
>>>  sustainable livestock
>>> >>  production and sale and where they want to head in the
>>> >>  future. The goal would be to attract as many members of the
>>>  public as possible so
>>> >>  we can make the links to build this market. >>
>>> >>  Just some thoughts. >> Best Regards,
>>> >>  Jason
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