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Re: [lofo List] Possible Saskatoon working visit.
I will be back on Thursday. I think I wrote to you earlier that I am on
vacation in Toronto. Maybe you didn't get it.
K
On 2:07:13 pm 03/09/09 Don Mitchell <donmitchell@sasktel.net> wrote:
> Hi Karen,
>
> I sent a note earlier to Ellen about possibly attending the Saskatoon
> Food Coalition meeting. If that were to ahppen I'm wondering about
> meeting to assess where we're at on the FSS budget and what options
> we might have for using the available resources over the rest of the
> month.
> Also wondering about reviewing the copy for the website, displays and
> brochure.
>
> don
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <karen@chep.org>
> To: "Local Food Directory Project" <lofo@cs.uregina.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 4:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [lofo List] Re: dates for a food event
>
>
> >
> > What about a stream of workshops on the theme of cooking local
> > foods - this
> > could involve local cooks (such as the woman who owns the birch
> > hills restaurant) or Amy Jo Ehman who writes about local food or a
> > local catering
> > group who uses local affordable food for menus and to generate
> > money for their families. Maybe we can pay or get sponsor for a
> > celebrity cook from toronto and use him/her to attract a large
> > public attendance at a special event assoctated with the
> > conference.
> > K
> >
> > On 8:53:09 am 03/08/09 Don Mitchell <donmitchell@sasktel.net>
> >> wrote: Daryl and all,
> >>
> >> The Saskatchewan provincial Food Secure conference was originally
> >> targeted for May but we've moved it back to fall (probably Oct
> >> 2nd-3rd) to allow more lead time for planning and promotion. It
> >> looks like SIAT Palliser campus in Moose Jaw will be willing to
> >> partner with us.
> >> We want to develop a strong range of workshop options to broaden
> >> the network of participation especially among producers and urban
> >> food activists from around the province.
> >>
> >> don
> >>
> >> .
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Daryl Hepting" <dhh@cs.uregina.ca>
> >> To: "Local Food Directory Project" <lofo@cs.uregina.ca>
> >> Cc: "Nettie Wiebe" <nettie.wiebe@usask.ca>; "'Don Mitchell'"
> >> <donmitchell@sasktel.net>
> >> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 11:58 PM
> >> Subject: [lofo List] Re: dates for a food event
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi;
> >> >
> >> > Sure. I had in mind that Food Secure Saskatchewan was meeting
> >> > in May. The October dates sound fine, too, though I may not be
> >> > around.
> >> >> Lets be as synergistic as possible.
> >> >
> >> > I agree wholeheartedly.
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> > Daryl
> >> > --
> >> > On 7-Mar-09, at 9:04 PM, Cathy Holtslander wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Linking with the FSS conference sounds like a top-knotch
> >> >> idea, as it brings an existing network of food people
> >> >> together, and may well have some $$ resources in place
> >> >> already. I think it would be a better fit than Agribition,
> >> >> which tends to draw a crowd that really likes giant tractors.
> >> >> Cathy
> >> >>
> >> >> Quoting Don Mitchell <donmitchell@sasktel.net>:
> >> >>> Hi to all,,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm interested in this thread of discussion. I should let you
> >> >>> know that we
> >> >>> (Food Secure Saskatchewan) are planning a provincial
> >> >>> conference on Food Security in which a workshop on
> >> >>> grass-fed beef or red meat production could
> >> >>> be a highlight. Out tentative dates are October 2nd and 3rd.
> >> >>> We are looking
> >> >>> at a wide range of workshop themes promiting the local food
> >> >>> systems. The
> >> >>> event, at this point, loks like it will be located in Moose
> >> >>> Jaw. (Alternately it may be in Regina but this will be
> >> >>> decided before the end of
> >> >>> March.)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If we can include a workshop on sustainable red meat
> >> >>> productin we would be
> >> >>> very interested.
> >> >>> Don Mitchell
> >> >>> for Food Secure Saskatchewan
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >>> From: "Jason Freeman" <jason@farmerdirect.coop>
> >> >>> To: "Nettie Wiebe" <nettie.wiebe@usask.ca>; "Local Food
> >> >>> Directory Project"
> >> >>> <lofo@cs.uregina.ca>
> >> >>> Cc: "Local Food Directory Project" <lofo@cs.uregina.ca>
> >> >>> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:54 PM
> >> >>> Subject: RE: [lofo List] Dubious 'Scientific' Study Grass Fed
> >> >>> versus Grain
> >> >>> Fed Livestock
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > In my thinking the goal would be to connect members of the
> >> >>> public with
> >> >>> > the farmers...so direct sales for the farmers and consumer
> >> >>> education
> >> >>> > would be the major goals of the event. >
> >> >>> > If the end of October works for everybody by that time
> >> >>> local sustainable
> >> >>> > food should be red-hot, judging by all the media concerning
> >> >>> local food
> >> >>> > and the state of the world economy. So, perhaps we could
> >> >>> see 500 or more
> >> >>> > people who are serious about purchasing local and
> >> >>> sustainable meat come
> >> >>> > to this event. >
> >> >>> > People are in to it, they want to meet the farmers. >
> >> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> > From: Nettie Wiebe [mailto:nettie.wiebe@usask.ca]
> >> >>> > Sent: March 6, 2009 11:52 AM
> >> >>> > To: Local Food Directory Project; Jason Freeman
> >> >>> > Cc: Local Food Directory Project
> >> >>> > Subject: Re: [lofo List] Dubious 'Scientific' Study Grass
> >> >>> Fed versus
> >> >>> > Grain Fed Livestock
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Thanks for your input, Jason. As a small cow-calf organic
> >> >>> > beef operation, we would be interested in the kind of
> >> >>> > workshop you are proposing - at least if it is organized
> >> >>> during a season when we can take
> >> >>> > time away from the farm. > Nettie Wiebe
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Quoting Jason Freeman <jason@farmerdirect.coop>:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> Hi Darryl,
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> I'm a little concerned with the thread regarding the
> >> >>> >> supposed GHG benefits of grain versus grass fed
> >> >>> >> livestock. >> The article did not go into enough detail
> >> >>> > regarding how the 'scientists'
> >> >>> >> derived the volume of methane produced between Grass and
> >> >>> >> grain fed cattle. It appeared they simply derived volume
> >> >>> based on a calorie per
> >> >>> >> calorie basis. >>
> >> >>> >> A study last year pointed out that lamb raised in New
> >> >>> >> Zealand but consumed in the UK represented less GHG than
> >> >>> lamb raised and consumed
> >> >>> >> in the UK. The main reason was that the New Zealand lamb
> >> >>> was raised
> >> >>> >> and finished on grass and the UK on grain. >>
> >> >>> >> Mammals, including ourselves, tend not to emit that much
> >> >>> methane when
> >> >>> >> we eat a diet consistent with our physiology...meaning we
> >> >>> >> fart and burp less. Cows are no different. It is extremely
> >> >>> >> dubious to claim that cows designed to eat grass actually
> >> >>> >> contribute to GHG versus grain fed cattle especially in
> >> >>> feed lots where you have all sorts of
> >> >>> >> health problems such as acidosis. >>
> >> >>> >> The proper management of manure and pasture actually
> >> >>> >> increases the farms soil organic matter and therefore one
> >> >>> should see a net reduction
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> of GHG from a properly managed grass fed operation. I
> >> >>> would absolutely
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> agree that multi-species livestock management is the way
> >> >>> >> to go but this needs the development of a local food
> >> >>> >> system to make it financially sustainable. >> Of course
> >> >>> over grazing damages pastures but the whole point is to
> >> >>> >> manage your farm properly. >>
> >> >>> >> I believe grain fed can also reduce GHG by increasing soil
> >> >>> >> organic matter if the feeding is done on an organic farm
> >> >>> from grain grown on
> >> >>> >> the farm with proper manure and pasture management. This
> >> >>> >> is my experience at farmer direct which needs to be
> >> >>> further quantified. A
> >> >>> >> hybrid of grass/grain may end up being the most efficient
> >> >>> way for an
> >> >>> >> organic family farm, on the prairies, to utilize all of
> >> >>> >> their resources to achieve economic sustainability given
> >> >>> various market and
> >> >>> >> weather fluctuations. For example, if you have a mixed
> >> >>> >> operation, growing grain and raising grass-fed cattle, but
> >> >>> >> your crop ends up being feed quality and the feed market
> >> >>> price is unprofitable...what do
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> you do, because you are a grass operation you can't feed
> >> >>> the grain to
> >> >>> > your cattle. >> So you other option is to hold over the
> >> >>> grain until the feed markets
> >> >>> >> increase which then puts you in a speculative position. >>
> >> >>> >> Maybe its time for a one day symposium regarding a local
> >> >>> organic meat
> >> >>> >> system up at the University. There is a lot of really
> >> >>> >> exciting activity going on in Saskatchewan with people
> >> >>> like Mark, Clear Creek,
> >> >>> >> Keith Neu and a number of other groups who are raising
> >> >>> >> organic livestock for sale in local/Sask markets. The
> >> >>> >> farmers could share their visions on what constitutes
> >> >>> healthy and sustainable livestock
> >> >>> >> production and sale and where they want to head in the
> >> >>> >> future. The goal would be to attract as many members of
> >> >>> the public as possible so
> >> >>> >> we can make the links to build this market. >>
> >> >>> >> Just some thoughts. >> Best Regards,
> >> >>> >> Jason
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