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Re: [lofo List] Regina Farmers' Market Corn Festival -listservs
Personally, I don't mind an occasional outburst of disagreement and
communication on a listserv. I'm armed with a delete key if I'm too busy
and reply (or delete) button if my sensibilities are offended. It helps
everyone see who is watching the list, and thinking about our subject of
local food.
John
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>>> Nettie Wiebe <nettie.wiebe@usask.ca> 9/4/2009 11:13 AM >>>
Dear Karen:
My thoughts exactly.
Nettie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Archibald" <karen@chep.org>
To: "Local Food Directory Project" <lofo@cs.uregina.ca>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [lofo List] Regina Farmers' Market Corn Festival
> Hmmm - maybe we don't all need to be privy to this letter.
>
> K
>
> Karen Archibald
> CHEP good food
> Room 210 230 Avenue R South
> Saskatoon S7M 0Z9
> 306 655-4575
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Freeman" <jason@farmerdirect.coop>
> To: "Local Food Directory Project" <lofo@cs.uregina.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:12 PM
> Subject: RE: [lofo List] Regina Farmers' Market Corn Festival
>
>
> Hi Don,
>
> I apologize for the spelling mistake.
> However I don't appreciate your tone. The subject of my email is of
the
> upmost importance to all of us.
> One of their young people just died of cancer, give your head a
shake!
> I don't appreciate it when politicians take an honest mistake and use
it
> to confuse an issue and tarnish the
> messenger with innuendo. We are all hard working, mistakes happen, to
> somehow insinuate that I intended to
> disrespect the Hutterites is hitting below the belt. You could have
simply
> said, - "One is that the correct spelling is
> "Hutterites" as opposed to "Hudderites" - and left it at that.
>
> Inregards to your second point, this is great to know that two of
their
> colonies are involved in chemical free
> vegetable production. Hopefully this is an indication of the future.
> However, I do not know of any colony that
> is practicing chemical free or organic grain or livestock production.
The
> Hutterites grain operations are huge and concern
> many thousands of acres and therefore many thousands of tonnes of
chemical
> use. My previous email was inregards to a young
> Hutterite who died of cancer. Why? What are the contributing factors?
Was
> it partly due to chemical use on their land?
> And this is not about pointing the finger of blame, this is about
getting
> to the truth and understanding that we do have the
> power to stop cancer but we must be willing to be honest with
ourselves
> and be willing to change, that's all.
>
> This is not about spelling mistakes, its about something much more
> important, life, health and the happiness of our communities and
families.
>
> Next time please resist the urge to be reactionary with me.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-lofo@cs.uregina.ca [mailto:owner-lofo@cs.uregina.ca] On
Behalf
> Of Don Mitchell
> Sent: September 3, 2009 1:50 PM
> To: Local Food Directory Project
> Subject: Re: [lofo List] Regina Farmers' Market Corn Festival
>
> Hi Daryl;
>
> Two minor points in response to Jason Freeman's extensive note which
> overall makes some good points. One is that the correct spelling is
> "Hutterites" as opposed to "Hudderites" . Getting their name right
would
> be a minimal gesture of respect for these hard working producers.
>
> Secondly there are some Hutterite colonies that I am familiar with,
such
> as Abbey and Main Centre, which are chemical free in their vegetable
> production practices. Like other producers Hutterite gardeners are
quite
> diverse in their farming policies and practices a point that should
be
> recognized.
>
> -don mitchell
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daryl Hepting" <hepting@cs.uregina.ca>
> To: "Local Food Directory Project" <lofo@cs.uregina.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [lofo List] Regina Farmers' Market Corn Festival
>
>
> Hi;
>
> Thanks to Jason for his post.
> I simply reposted the note I received.
> Perhaps Ada Bennett (reginafarmersmarket@hotmail.com) of the
> Regina Farmers Market can be engaged in this discussion?
>
> Best regards,
> Daryl
> --
> On 3-Sep-09, at 12:16 PM, Jason Freeman wrote:
>
>> This is difficult, how is one supposed to expose the absurdity of
>> this charitable event without hurting peoples' feelings? How does
>> one approach the absurdity to really get through to people so that
>> we change, we get our heads out of the sand?
>>
>> I realize that this email is perhaps a little over the top for a
>> simple corn cob fundraiser but is it? Is it when put in context of
>> all the other cancer fundraisers. These fundraisers allow us to
push
>> responsibility to larger organizations when the responsibility sits
>> right in our laps and confuses the discussion when we shouldn't be
>> walking for the cure, we should be discussing the reasons behind
>> cancer and finding solutions. I remember the last Canadian Cancer
>> Society fundraiser I passed by. It was sponsored by Saskpower. They
>> were selling feed lot sourced hotdogs, in refined white flour buns,
>> with synthetic perservative and synthetic colour laden mustard and
>> ketchup along with pop and different flavours of potato chips.
>>
>> Cancer isn't something that just happens. We are doing it to
>> ourselves, the more we pollute the more we will become polluted and
>> cancerous.
>> Local food isn't enough because the next question is are those
>> pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers local? When local farmers
>> purchase these chemicals, local money is leaving the community and
>> is funnelled towards the very companies that keep producing and
>> marketing these toxins. And that local money is your money. Local
>> purchases of vegetables are definitely a lot better than purchasing
>> your vegetables from superstore (organic or conventional) but they
>> are not the entire solution. Two groups at the farmers market have
>> proven, from the abundance and quality of their vegetables, that we
>> can absolutely grow local food without these toxic chemicals. The
>> two farms are Lincoln Gardens and Heliotrope Gardens. There is no
>> reason why the Hudderites can not do the same...but our hearts need
>> to be open to the change for the change to happen.
>>
>> So regarding the absurdity:
>>
>> 1. Conventionally raised corn is a huge feeder, meaning it needs
>> lots and lots of synthetic fertilizer to grow. The Huddertites do
>> not farm organically.
>> 2. Is this corn a gentically modified variety?
>> 3. The Hudderites, along with all other conventional farmers, use
>> pesticides and herbicides to control weeds and pests. I don't know
>> if the Hudderites need to use pesticides on their corn but they
>> definitely use pesticides on their other market garden vegetables.
>> If you aren't farming organically there is no way around that. If
>> you are farming organically, through holistic approaches to farm
>> management, pests are a reality but can be managed very well.
>> 4. Why are more and more young people dying of cancer? This is
>> fairly recent and again we need to be realistic and brave inregards
>> to our role in this disease.
>> 5. The Canadian Cancer Society for all intense purposes is a front
>> group for pharmaceutical companies. We've known for decades that
>> prevention is the best cure and only recently has the Canadian
>> Cancer Society acknowledged this. However, there is no money for
>> their benefactors (big pharma) in prevention.
>> 6. How many bank scandals, sponsorship scandals, other scandals do
>> we need to go through before citizens wise up to the myth of
>> centralized control and take back the power. Stop looking for
>> somebody to cure you, stop looking for some big enterprise or
>> government to help you. They only want your money, you are simply a
>> number, a body, you do not matter to them at all! You are as
>> worthless to them as a cow in a feedlot. They will use you up and
>> spit you out but first they will siphon of hundreds of thousands of
>> dollars from the community, in your life time, to 'treat' you.
>> 6. We have funnelled billions of dollars into cancer research, yet
>> still no cure. And yet children in North Central, future cancer
>> sufferers, still go hungry or are fed nutritionally void food. Stop
>> being naïve, we can not cure something that is social in nature. We
>> must reform the way we eat and relate to eachother, that is the
>> cure. People are being used as ginnea pigs as big pharma comes out
>> with one new drug after another. Chemotherapy, while destroying
>> cancer cells, also destroys your bodies immune system. If the
cancer
>> doesn't get you, maybe the heart disease will or the MS, or the
>> myriad of other chronic diseases which feed on people with weak
>> immune systems.
>> 7. I personally know people that have cured themselves of cancer.
>> They got rid of all their conventional food and replaced it with
>> organic whole and raw foods (not organic processed foods - this is
>> an important distinction). They got rid of all of their cosmetics
>> and bodycare products that have petroleum and synthetic chemicals
in
>> them, soap, lipstick, eyeshadow etc., and replaced them with
nothing
>> or with organic cosmetics made from plants. On the bodycare
>> products, just because it says organic doesn't mean it is you must
>> read your lables and research ingredients carefully. They got rid
of
>> all of their household cleaning products and replaced them with
>> vinegar and baking soda. And most importantly they open their
hearts
>> and confronted the emotional/spiritual components of why they are
>> ill. The only cure to cancer is a drastic lifestyle change...but in
>> the end mother earth will reward you with great health and
longevity.
>>
>> How long will this charade go on...its up to you.
>>
>> Comments are welcome, but have your facts straight, knee jerk
>> emotional responses will be ignored.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-lofo@cs.uregina.ca [mailto:owner-lofo@cs.uregina.ca] On
>> Behalf Of Daryl Hepting
>> Sent: September 3, 2009 10:11 AM
>> To: Local Food Directory Project
>> Subject: [lofo List] Regina Farmers' Market Corn Festival
>>
>> Hi;
>>
>> For people in Regina on Saturday and/or Wednesday next week... pass
>> it on.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Daryl
>> --
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Ada Bennett <reginafarmersmarket@hotmail.com>
>>> Date: September 2, 2009 4:42:53 PM GMT-06:00
>>> To: Ada Bennett <reginafarmersmarket@hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: Regina Farmers' Market Corn Festival
>>>
>>> Good Day Everyone!
>>>
>>> I am writing an old fashioned grass roots e-mail campaign for our
5th
>>> Annual Corn Festival! We're having a corn cookout! The Lajord
Colony
>>> cooks, dips in melted butter (if you like), and sells you fresh
corn
>>> on the cob for only $2.00! Salt and pepper provided.
>>> Albert has created a special pot and propane heat to cook 72 cobs
of
>>> corn at a time. Last year we sold 1081 cobs of corn, and raised
>>> $1558.05 for their charity of choice. Can we beat that this year?
>>> Certainly, with your help!
>>>
>>> The charity of choice this year is the Canadian Cancer Society as
the
>>> Colony has experienced the loss of one of it's young members from
>>> Cancer. Profits from the sale will go directly to national Cancer
>>> research. The charity's mission is : We are a national,
>>> community-based organization of volunteers, whose mission is the
>>> eradication of cancer and the enhancement of the quality of life
of
>>> people living with cancer. A very worthy cause indeed!
>>>
>>> Dates:
>>> Saturday, September 5th
>>> Wednesday, September 9th
>>> 9:30am to 1:30 pm
>>> Beside Copper Kettle
>>>
>>> ****We will add on another date of September 12th if we have a bad
>>> weather day on the dates above****
>>>
>>> Please let your friends know about this event. The Lajord Colony
>>> really does corn right! Print off a poster for your workplace if
>>> allowed, and check out the media release about this event.
>>>
>>> Thank you everyone!
>>>
>>>
>>> Ada Bennett
>>> Regina Farmers' Market Manager
>>> 160-2002 Victoria Ave, Avord Tower
>>> Regina, Saskatchewan
>>> S4P 0R7
>>> Market Office: (306) 352-FARM
>>> Market Cell: (306)581-7408
>>> www.reginafarmersmarket.ca
>> --
>> Daryl H. Hepting, Ph.D.
>> Associate Professor * Computer Science Department * CW 308.22
>> University of Regina * Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada S4S 0A2
>> dhh@cs.uregina.ca * http://www.cs.uregina.ca/~hepting
>> tel: (306) 585-5210 * fax: (306) 585-4745 * cell: (306) 596-6312
>>
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> Daryl H. Hepting, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor * Computer Science Department * CW 308.22
> University of Regina * Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada S4S 0A2
> dhh@cs.uregina.ca * http://www.cs.uregina.ca/~hepting
> tel: (306) 585-5210 * fax: (306) 585-4745 * cell: (306) 596-6312
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