Mtg 3/24: Tue-18-Jan-2022

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Zoom Audio Transcript

• Good morning.
• morning good morning.
• Good.
• morning.
• how's everyone doing today. You don't have to come up with a single answer for that sleepy. don't have to reach a consensus. yeah so we'll talk about the syllabus. And i'll show it to you. But I. had an issue getting it transferred to my site so it's on my. My laptop. Okay. Okay, let me. show you the syllabus first. Okay, here we go. So it's winter 2022 you see that all right.
• yep.
• Okay. So. Our meetings are via zoom. And in person. So we're going to talk about that in a minute is anyone heard from. That I return to in person learning.
• Can you hear me.
• hear me.
• you hear me.
• yeah.
• my sister works at the university at the FCC in their order not to come back until February 7 and she was assuming that the students were going to get the same treatment that's all i've heard.
• yeah okay well we'll talk about in a minute, so we had a discussion of this.
• yesterday.
• So that's right. Maybe we just talked about right now. So there's the option to come back on February 7. Which is a Monday. So that would be two weeks before the break. So. We would have the eighth and the 10th and the 15th through the 17th in person. or partly in person and then. So let's see. yeah so we're off. or reading which. means we're not meeting in the 22nd of 24th. And then, our next day would be march 1. So the plan is for everybody to come back on march 1. And that's a Tuesday. So it's the beginning of the month of March. So indicated by March 1. So that that makes it simpler for residents people moving back to the residents. So the question for you today and what is. not going to make a final decision today. Well, we can talk about it and then we'll talk about it again on Thursday. So this doesn't this wouldn't affect. People in the road section. So it's primarily as a face to face section. be affected by this. So let me create a Pole, for this. Did you get a chance to see the watch the video say suggested. i'll stay.
• yeah.
• Okay. So let you. express your thoughts about that. In Nepal. So there's still 12 people. Who haven't answered. Nine people now. just give it a few more seconds. So, are there any questions about details. So a question. i'm going to find an answer to for myself is. If there are people in the face to face section. who want to. want to stay remote. Is that. Is that possible to switch sections or. Some just logistical issues like that. Because, so we will be back on march 1. that's the impression that. There will be people, I will be there for sure on march 1. And so that. was our preliminary poll here. or sure seems to be. The one that has the most support. But if. Again, like I said, if you have questions. Post them to the forum.
• So I have a question for you. Sure, so it's a lot better for me if all my classes go back to the in person at the exact same time, rather than having an online class and then. In person class 10 minutes later and need to be at the school So my question is. Are computers available at the school right now I can I go to the library or is that closed.
• that's a good question.
• You can go to the library i've done it before.
• All right.
• yeah and i'm just. I took that, as a general. Availability of computing labs question.
• And I second thing is just a suggestion, it might make sense to allow people to stay online if they want to, because you you you do offer both online and in person.
• yeah. I think that's not going to be an issue but. I just want to make sure that i'm not saying one thing and then the end of the Semester and there's problems. So.
• that's totally fair thanks. you're welcome.
• Okay, so that was a good start to our discussion and if questions come up. before Thursday. we'll discuss it on Thursday and i'll try and get some more information and. we'll go from there. Okay. So my offices in college West. I used to be able to say that it was an alphabetical section of the computer science department, because all the ages were alpha ties, but that's not the case anymore. But it's easy. To find the Alpha store. So my thought for office times is. To run a hybrid. Once we're back to in person meetings i'll have my zoom room for office open, as well as my office door. And so, if you're on campus you can come and see me or if you're not on campus you can zoom me. So the website is.
• yeah.
• well.
• Where can I find this syllabus.
• So my is going to be on the website. soon. I had some technical difficulties. My.
• upload it to us.
• sure. i'll do that right now.
• Right, thank you.
• Just locked in. let's see. Did the trick.
• You, of course.
• Okay. So I have a reference. So the first blown to bits book first came out in 2008. and fairly recently a second edition was published so. it's available online, you can buy the book. But it's available chapter by chapter. At this link. So let me just click on the show. web page. I thought I had this link to it. Anyway, Sir, the chapters. So you can download the whole thing. Or you can look at the individual chapters. Anyway, um. So, according to the syllabus. i've laid out the course. In your courses. Like the syllabus so responses to meetings. will be 10 marks. participation will be 10 marks. Individual assignments will be 30 marks so that's 50. projects will be 25. And the final exam will be 25 so it makes 100. So. I i'm the participant pool coordinator for computer science. I started the participant pool. Some years ago. Has anyone ever heard of. participant pool maybe in psychology or another computer science classes.
• I have not.
• Okay well so it's basically like the one in psychology. So it's a way to encourage your participation in departmental research. So at different times, people will. Researchers will have. need to go through. To do some user studies or. do some. Tests with users. So primarily user studies are are the things that we're dealing with in computer science. So if. If there are opportunities. to earn a research credit. i'll list them in the section of your courses, with the information. So you can. Put if if there are say three studies, you can participate in two of them up to them. and earn credits. For your participation, so if you persuade one study you get one bonus mark to participate in two studies, then you get two bonus marks. So you can. Get at most 2% towards anyone class, so if we had 33 studies this semester that hasn't happened for a long time, but if there were then you could. participate in studies and get two bonus marks for this class and say, and if there's another class in the participant pool. You could apply you could get the third bonus smart. and apply it to your other class. So. The reason. it's. One bonus smart per study and not say 10 or 15 or 20 or 50. Is that it's enough to say thank you, we appreciate your engagement with research going on in the department. But it's not so much. to dissuade you. or. To encourage you to participate when you're not selling. With a little voice in your head is saying I don't want to do this. So we're not. reward isn't a coercive. amount. No it's not so much that you can't refuse to do it. Because that. that's an ethical issue. When we're doing user studies. We want to make sure that we have free and informed consent from people. So if people are not course, then the results we get are going to be better. and
• let's see.
• Can you push it. Can let's. Do the hand okay well i'm good.
• answer. Yes, so are you going to like upload some links, or some references under the search credit section there sorry the research create fiction whenever there's a new.
• If there are any issues, I will put them there and we'll talk about some I thought, introduce them to you, so there may not be, but if there are, they will appear and this under this topic.
• I see. Okay, because yeah because there, I went to that website that someone gave a link to but like I couldn't actually find any our recent you know both that are up.
• I don't. understand the. The website you're talking about. Anyway, there aren't there aren't as of yet any research opportunities. That would qualify for this.
• Normally we get emails from this year's department to like I get emails from them for various research opportunities when they're available at the last day remember there was, I think, Dr homers research on virtual reality or vr experience. So you must get emails as well. From CS department about the research opportunities.
• yeah. OK. So the participation. mark will be based on attendance and I know we have to do that still. Your. participation. In. Class meetings and so. What I asked. So you seen. The transcripts that come up so. The footprint of your. engage or your participation that's evidence by the. Your appearance in the transcripts that's another factor. The wiki.
• So I understand that there's a variety of things that this is based on I was wondering if we get a more concrete definition of it. Like there must be some kind of metrics that you're using like participated 150 times over the course of the Semester, you know. i'm just wondering so it's not like totally subjective as to whether or not I know whether or not I participated.
• Okay. I understand that so. I will answer that. More fully online or prepare response. and put it into our class materials this week okay.
• Thank you.
• you're welcome.
• Thank you.
• you're welcome. Okay. Alright, so let's go back to. Okay, so i'm going to the attendance page. No, I don't know where.
• I think the issue might be obvious, you have two different attendance tabs online those in attendance in. The meetings, which is where we've done our pastor tenants, and then in the participation you put the record your meeting attendance but there's nothing there, so if you go to just the meetings. Have.
• Sure Okay, but.
• This one should be.
• I don't know why. I didn't change the link from the other day so. Anyway, thanks for pointing that out. One of the peculiarities of moodle. Okay. So. let's have a discussion about the videos today. suggested for your last day. What did you think of the Ted talk about. Moral the moral need for a moral operating system. Does that video stand up pretty well and it's from a few years ago. Yes, vomit.
• I actually forgot to like remove the raise hand but like. I also talked about the moral operating system, the video that we watched. Like it was a really nice video when I started watching it initially I was kind of confused because he was talking the other way around like you know he at first. proved the other side wrong and then he stated what we should actually do in order to think ethically you know so at first i'm the. Guy he was talking about how we should look at math and numbers in order to make decisions in our regular regular life, for example, if we should actually. Go and research about what others are doing, and then you know and then see the statistics and and then work on our data, and then the license to make our. Information technology better you know, but like after he he imposed that side of the. argument he actually mentioned that every single human being has their own right and and has their own privacy, so we should not intervene in others, others life and give them their own privacy and not thinking about business all the time, you know I guess.
• Okay. So I didn't I didn't get that he was taking a position so much as. It was illustrating the impacts of these choices, you make and designing systems. Let me. Let me see if I can do something here. To make this easier. So if you. Put a mark on your iPhone or android. how's that for. A poll. So, based on your your preference so. Right, so the discussion was about crowdsourcing decisions.
• Okay.
• got a couple android. So people are using the chat.
• Oh, there we are right on the board.
• There should be like a pencil icon at least i'm on mobile, so I see.
• yeah.
• And then you could annotate. it's probably different on desktop.
• i'm going to say. It may also. be able to do. reactions.
• For those of you who are searching for a pencil on a desktop if you see the green bar saying you are viewing this thing screen by besides though there's an option called view options click on it click on annotate and you find the fence in there.
• yeah Thank you. I noticed that.
• Can you do the tally for android as well.
• looks really hard to read here.
• I could be just simply too cold.
• So i'm i'll consider this a success so i'm going to do. i'll do a set up a question or pole or a choice in your courses. to capture this information. I am pleased that. we're getting. Although i'm not sure the person doing the check marks. If it's one person or many people doing the same checkmark. So this isn't. This isn't. Statistically valid 19 times 23 is here, but. Okay. I. certainly appreciate. All those. I was laughing because. The apple comment cutter. overlaid with the android comment. yeah So these are. These are sensitive issues aren't they I mean people. have strong feelings about. The. choice of. choice of operating system. Yes, pooja.
• sorry about that.
• that's fine. So I. I got some news a couple of these links are from me watching weekend update and surname live. So interesting about. Sure, the choice between android and iPhone. Google is claiming that apple is. Bullying android users. Because they're using different colored. If you if you're sending a plain text message I don't think it's just android. that's. that's where the bulk of text messages come from. So if you use I message. And you're a cool kid quote unquote, then you get a blue background. And if you're using. The standard standard. SMS. client than your peers a green background. So I thought that was. An interesting. connection with the daemon haurwitz video. So the other one. Like a fun year. This the elmo. elmo is viral feud with Rocco the rock. So I didn't realize that was a video from 2004. that's making the rounds, as I saw that Allah was tweeting recently. To. to lower the temperature on the on the feud. Anyone familiar with. Anyone. Other. Exposure to the. I was looking at the chat. And i'm not sure. we're. not sure about the thread in the chat anyway. So the other one related to damon Horwitz video. Is it there's. A call from some MPs Members of Parliament for comments Community pro. The public health agency of canada's use of mobile data. So they. They had been collecting data. To support some of their modeling for coven 19. And it wasn't clear that this was being done. Until they asked to do it for a longer period. Okay, let me clear the. Okay. So it's interesting about. The whiteboard annotation so I. encountered this. As a way to encourage participation. In a. In a in a seminar and I attended last semester. Yes, so. So we're not. yeah so. The choice is doing a poll in. In zoom. or. doing a choice, and you are courses. So i'll set up. A choice. yeah it looks good doesn't it. But i'm not sure whether it's the same person well it's a few people. If the check marks are from the same person or a few or. So let's think of the trade offs with this approach. So we've generated a lot of. discussion. A lot of participation. But the risk is. We can say. Oh no. We can say that the classes split 5050 on this issue. But we can't make any. yeah I can't make any. Any claims those statistics. So whoa like I said we'll try some other things. And maybe we will agree that. The zoom Paul is the best way to go. i'm. I like the idea of using your courses because there's persistence. it's easy to have. The data persist over the Semester. Within the trade off. Well okay.
• Okay.
• yeah. So I saved the screen. And i'll. i'll try and make sure that there's nothing. or try and read through the comments to make sure that i'm not. Sharing something that. I shouldn't. So that this is. And, just like that it's gone. Well, we just encountered here was. very similar to the issues we see on social media platform is when. When the discussion. becomes sidetracked. And there's so much going on that it's hard to. it's hard to critically analyze and. reflect on things. When we don't know, for example. Whether there are really. lots of people making individual thought. marks on the screen. or with just a couple people clicking the checkmark. So there's certainly some issues about. what's. what's really going on and is this. Encouraging freedom of expression or. Is it distracting us. From the important conversations that we need to have a society. So in the video David Horowitz ask you know, should we collect this that guy's data. We didn't. So should we collect his data collector data or let them be. And then. Well, but what kind of data were collecting and for what purpose. Is it because we want to improve their user experience. make things. more convenient for them, or are we suspicious that they might be up to no good. And then, who decides. When people have up to no good. there's lots of issues dorcas.
• Oh yeah I don't know you're actually asking questions you answer, but I feel like the side of someone is up to no good with the data, you should compare it, you should compare it to the laws already in place in the land in the country.
• yeah so. that's a good comment. But then. What if we're. Moving so. If the technology that we're using is moving ahead more equipped is advancing more quickly than the laws. That can. That should be there to. define the appropriate behavior and what's permissible and not.
• Well, I feel like some things won't change, no matter like how fast the universe moves in computing like when it comes to like. Sexual cybercrime like pedophiles and stuff like that I feel like stuff like that will never change, and the only way, you can track down those people is by looking at their computer data and what they download.
• yeah.
• I feel like. you're missing the point of like encryption encryption basically prevents whatever laws, you have from mattering because you know, like I like a criminal or. pedophile or whatever can can download as much as they want and then just encrypt it know like whatever laws, you have you can't break the laws of encryption unless you have like a quantum computer or something.
• yeah so there's issue of. Looking at. The data, but then there's also. Looking at metadata. Around the transfers, you know if people are communicating with a certain other computer and that certain or the computer is known to be a file server. For. Content that's not appropriate that's that's not legal. So. there's there's some room in. To pursue to pursue the activities in that way. finished one. You have your hand up.
• Oh yeah I think someone just mentioned that I was just about to say that privacy should be considered and monitoring people's data as well, we might know what up what personal information as possible between two between two people and privacy should be consistent, sir.
• Okay. dorcas.
• Okay, but I feel like the privacy that people are asking for it doesn't even exist because, once you use social media and the rest your data is already being sold to companies for advertising, so do you really think the government will care about keeping your privacy and data.
• showing you social media.
• yeah. So. lots of good discussion going on here. So I would say, generally, things are perhaps a bit more nuanced than. What we've touched on, so far, today, but we'll. we'll work on getting into some of those subtleties over the Semester. yeah okay so. we're kind of at the end of our day today. So with that all say goodbye, and thank you very much for your engagement today. And i'll. Work on answers to your to the questions that came up and if there are more questions because i've got office hours from 10 to noon. And again from. 233 30 this afternoon. No dentist appointment, this year, this today. I survived my appointment on Thursday. Anyway, so I hope you have a great third Tuesday. And Wednesday and we'll see you on Thursday take care, everyone.
• Thanks take care.
• Thank you.
• Have a great day.
• Good day.
• Excuse me Prof. yeah so the link for the office hour is the same one.
• it's not the same zoom room no. into a different.
• So so where can we get the link for the office hour to.
• send you our courses.
• The only link that I could see is the zoom meeting link.
• know this, if you go up to.
• zoom office link you mean. Yes, okay okay so you'll be there from 10. yeah okay Thank you so much, Sir, I hope you have a good rest.
• you're welcome thanks take care.
• I just have a question regarding to the participation so who will cause like equations and the participation pools and it's similar to the one that we you post in the response to meeting.
• yeah it's more detail.
• To participation.
• For sure Okay, thank you.

Zoom Chat Transcript

• Good morning
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• Good Morning everyone!
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• I think some of us are signed up for online only so the poll isn't really applicable
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• ya not sure is applicable for online students
• Yeah I’m online as well so I didn’t vote
• just answer not sure then
• What if we selected remote learning? still we need to go in-person?
• wasn't the second option hybrid, remote?
• I believe remote students would still be remote
• can in person choose to be in online class even if we chose in person in ur self service?
• Sorry,,what is the password for attendance?
• not given yet
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• I've heard of it for Psych
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• Never for CS though
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• head it in psych 101
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• https://www.cs.uregina.ca/Research/
• how will the participation mark for the class be graded?
• Sorry, what is the attendance code?
• not sent yet
• not given yet
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• what did prof just say? I missed it for some internet glitch
• The participation rubric will be posted as part of class materials
• on ur courses?
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• Student password
• thanks
• It made sense to me.
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• iPhone :)
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• Click view options at the top of the screen and then click Annotate
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• both of them are fine
• not on pc then I guess
• android
• I can't find the pencil!
• Android though.
• I like both
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• I can't find pencil
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• Thank you Pooja!
• Thank you!
• IPHONE
• poll is must good
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• Lets all cheer lead for our preferred brand.
• I think unless and until we can call & text a person any of them is better..
• bruh what is that
• Lmfaooo
• loll!!
• lol
• Cringe
• ahahahahah
• hella based class
• doing a poll is better
• yeah do a poll
• its anarchy
• but I feel like the results might not be accurate
• just a bit
• ☹️ too chaotic for a poll
• a poll would be more accurate than this lol
• Should just do a voting poll
• poll is better
• poll in zoom
• I mean, it looks like youre getting a hell of a lot of participation haha
• zoom
• zoom poll
• zoom please
• since there is no write or wrong answer, people wont mind participating in the poll
• lol
• zoom poll
• Can't tell if someone is spamming
• right*
• this is just fine
• Some Extra-terrestrial voters on the screen ig!! Who just wanna draw things on white board!!kiddos lmao!!
• Hey guys, let's try and keep it professional
• Oh my lol
• whoever is doing this just stop
• Does someone find this funny
• Poor Daryl is just trying to teach a class, but he taught people to use the whiteboard.
• whoever did probably has an option to undo it as well
• exactly ppl have option always to undo their doings!
• thank you
• So lets focus on professor instead
• i meant literally Aditya.
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• privacy should always be #1
• I don’t like to change my clothes with blinds open 🙂
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• politicians are also probasbly paid by those ad companies
• Thank you, have a good day!
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• have a good day
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• Have a good day!
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• Can you assign me a group as I have joined in few days back
• I will check on the groups before Thursday and make sure that they are up to date :-)
• thanks
• my pleasure. see you Thursday
• thanks

Responses

The most important thing that I encountered:

• The most important thing that i learned today was the difference between features of an I-phones and Androids. There were significant features which were discussed like tracking , lagging and hacking and many more. I would more like to learn about which is better an I-phone or Android..
• I loved those ted talk videos which gave me a lot of information about privacy and security. And coming to the today’s class the polls about ios and android are quite interesting. I support ios in this because we have more privacy iphones compared to androids and iPhones are generally more well built and have better hardware-software integration than Android smartphones.
• It is important to think beyond profit and business when thinking about peoples privacy in the computing world.
• is that people have their own prefrences over iphone or android
• The most interesting thing to see was that those who voted that data should be read also voted that Apple was better. This is interesting because Apple has the most transparency in data usage out of any phone brand to go as far as using icons at the top of your screen to indicate that the app is using your location or other things
• In today's class we have discussed about the ted video's and in that it is explain that what can done if the website known the person data. The companies collect the data of people and make money by giving them loan, insurance because they can have track of their bills and get an idea of financial status of person. The data analysis can know the interest of person and suggest them product by showing advertisement.
• we have a topic of either wo chose iPhone or android.
• Government and a lot of private companies have a lot of access to personal user data.
• The most important thing I learned today was the ability to better analyze the impacts of decisions when designing systems by asking by asking is this decision ethical and who decides this?
• When it comes to freedom of speech, the power of utilizing annotations to create a more dynamic poll in the classroom can have some extreme drawbacks. creating a more structured poll such as the discussion for when in person classes should resume was a much more effective manner and can help negate the use of duplicate votes.
• The privacy is still the most important thing. However, it is also necessary for Public Agency to collect the user data for COVID 19.
• For my personal opinion, I think that there is no personal privacy. And sometimes, the person’s privacy is necessary for government to protect our safety.
• Today's two way discussion about "moral operating system" has taught me, how we can use data to track down several criminal activities happening around us. And, on the other hand, how an individuals privacy should be the first priority no matter what the consequences are. The most important thing that I learned is, that there is no formula to what's right and wrong, we should think ethically before making decisions.
• To decently answer the first question from the earlier lecture, I would always choose Apple. I have tried using an android phone before but it was not for me. I am well aware that there is more freedom when it comes to android devices, but Apple products do not get any viruses. For the second question, "Look at the guy's data or let them be?", I would answer that question with my classmate's legendary quote. Pooja Patel states, “Knowledge is a very dangerous thing, especially in the wrong hands”.
• that android is better than Iphone..
• Today's class was quite fascinating as I learned some crucial that the data of a person. I learned that making a decision about some crucial topic is really important. In my opinion, we should not use the private data of a person for any reason (even if it is to make his experience better), as respecting a person's privacy is must and its unethical if someone's privacy is being tempered with.
• The most important thing I learned is that moral decisions are not simple. Based on the Ted Talk video I learned that there are many different ideologies around making moral decisions and that not everyone agrees. Even in our class discussion people had differing opinions about what decision to make regarding people's privacy versus collecting data. This emphasized that moral decisions are not easy to make and that people need to think these things through before implementing stuff on computers.
• Through a survey in class, I was able to share what the students who listened to it together were thinking. I think the protection of personal information is the most important thing.
• In today's discussion, I learned that our phones have access to our data which then sold our data to advertisement companies. We get lack of privacy and phones and advertisement sell our privacy for profits. I also learned that Android is better than iphone. - from an android user.
• I learned that the choice of operating system is based on preferences, and the discussion on data and privacy is quite nuance.
• That deciding to collect data from people and what we do with it (if we decide to collect it) is a moral issue. These different kinds of morals we base off of to figure out what is “right from wrong” and whichever someone should use is up for debate. Some examples mentioned in the Ted talk were Plato, Aristotle, or Kant’s way of determining what we should do. There is not secret formula on choosing which way of thinking though.
• Basically, when I watched the TedTalk, it made me reflect on my morality based decisions. Because it is true. There is no simple answer on how humanity is making decisions. And I agree with the videos. That since technology is our future, people need to acknowledge and learn about computers more. Also, with the debate on iphone vs android, tbh I like both, and as long as device does its job, it fulfills our needs.
• The most important thing I learned in today's lecture would have to be that a lot of people seem to believe that there is no need for privacy of the individual online. It scares me a bit to think that there are those who believe this but I guess many have grown up giving away personal information for so long they think everything should be accessible to the government other others?
• It is our responsibility as Computer Scientists to approach design and technology with a humanities perspective. We are humans building and utilizing systems that will be used by other humans. We will never find an objective truth-- a unified code of ethics that will guide us. But in spite of this, we still have to try our best. We shouldn’t thoughtlessly make things without even considering how it will affect the user. We aren’t just computing machines.
• The most important thing that I learned today is the different ways of information transmission and how it is important to know where the source of information is coming.
• Firstly we went through the syllabus and we had a discussion on the ongoing topic whether the classes will be offline from feb or the march. We also discussed the marking scheme and the credits for research studies. I learned about the topic google claiming that apple is bullying android users because they use a different Colour for messaging and also about Elmo’s viral feud with Rocco the rock. Finally we discussed on the poll topic whether to prefer iPhone or android.
• Iphone vs Android. Both operating are superior but each of them have their own perks. iPhone's operating system is is very simple and clean and experts say it can be learned by any person but android is more complicated. Good thing about Android is that it is an open operating system whereas iPhones have closed OS. In terms of data privacy, iPhones are known for it because of their integrated design makes security vulnerabilities far less frequent and harder to find. I personally prefer iPhones over android
• We discussed about iPhones vs Android in today's meeting. Personally, I have been using an iPhone for several years now, but my first ever smart phone was an android. I think there's not really a bad choice whether you go with Android or Apple phones, just know the risks are always the same when it comes to your privacy and data being accessed or potentially breached.
• The most important thing I learned today was from the videos that were provided. the ted talk taught me that morality and decision making can happen in different ways. although we as technologists are taught about the mathematics and technicalities of decisions and truths, it is important to understand and implement humanitarian though processes when discussing moral operating systems.
• I learned today that there are different perspectives and views in society, for example Iphone users and android users have created a division between each other where Iphone users see android users as inferior. The Iphone users see themselves are using devices of higher status. They usually get some sort of gratification from using the latest types of phones.
• Really enjoyed today’s lecture and especially the poll part which was quite interesting and uplifted my mood in the morning .
• In today's meeting, we have discussed about the syllabus for CS 280 class. And discuss about the Google that has said that the Apple ‘should not benefit from bullying’ created by iMessage lock-in. Furthermore, we have discussed about the Elmo Addresses Viral Feud With Rocco The Rock and I hate how Zoe uses Rocco just to get her own way when she’s around Elmo most of the time and literally treats him secondary when it comes to Rocco, and Elmo has a really good.
• About the syllabus structure, the opportunity for research
• There were a lot of interesting topics that were discussed today. The most important thing I learnt was that knowledge is a powerful tool that can be misused if in the wrong hands.
• In todays lecture I got to know about the the syllabus of the course and what is the percentage division of each module. Also after the discussion of the syllabus we discussed about the videos which professor told to watch and we did a poll about iPhone and android. From the discussion we found the google thinks apple is bullying android but atlas of the poll android won. We also had a poll regarding if a organization can look at person data or not. The result of the poll was 50/50 some think that we shoul
• Professor started lecture with the introduction of the course syllabus and then went over to the grading scheme as well as how to gain research bonus marks. After that there was discussion on videos and reviews on the video. The main question discussed today was the iphone vs android. Which one of the brand is better than other and google is claiming that the iphone is bullying the android users.
• Omg! After very hard work done by professor finally we were able to see the syllabus. The most important thing we have found textbook which really helpful for whole winter 2022 semester. I read some of parts which was quite interesting. Hope to get more and more information regarding new innovations and its risks.
• SO I think we are the operating system. We have so much power and with great power comes great responsibility. We need to see the action in different angels, in different models. What if the outcomes outweigh the unmoral action we did, what if the outcomes of our actions benefit the society?
• the most important thing i learned today was the need of digital privacy in everyone's life and how to achieve that. Everyone's opinions were useful.
• The most important thing that I learned today is that there are several differences between iPhone and Android. I consider iPhone to be much better than Android. Despite the fact that Android has progressed a lot during the last years in the operating system, the intuitive iPhone’s interface and the simplicity of its use, makes iPhone be above of Android. In fact, the prices of each devices show the reality of the market. On the contrary, iPhone would not be as expensive as it is.
• Today we went through a few comparisons between apple and andriod phones. Students gave their suggestions and the reasons for why they choose andriod or iPhone. I prefer andriod over iPhone because of some better features like two ports , one for earphones and one for charging. We can also open up the battery of an andriod phone anytime and there are a list of more features that makes it better than iphone. We also learned that using social media is probably selling your data for advertising purposes.
• The most important thing I learned from today's class is there are good and bad things in collecting a persons data. This data can be used negatively or positively. Positively being that the collected data is used for better usage of the site that is collecting data or the site negatively using that data for their own gain.
• Todays lecture was great. We started with discussing about the syllabus and the book that can help us to learn more on this course. Then, we discussed about the in-person classes and the professor provided a poll for that, when we should return and the majority opt for march 1. After that there was a discussion on climate change and computing. There is some kind of effect on computing by the climate change. It is a true fact that when the weather is bad such as stormy or rainy weather than the connections b
• I very much agree with the Google's accusation on apple that iMessages can divide people and put on a lot of peer pressure for teens to buy an iPhone. Those who have an android phone feel like an outsider in all the social groups and this may also lead to depression and anxiety. I believe that the mobile community should come up with a plan on how this can resolved in order to stop judging people based on use of operating system.
• The meeting did a really good job of highlighting why rules are important for the information society. Without any rules things can quickly devolve as a few bad actors take advantage to derail the original purpose of a function or idea. In our case it was the attempt to poll the class through Zoom. In the future I think a much more formal way of tabulating votes is necessary to gain any information.
• I have learned about the connection between climate change and computing. Making me understand how computing can help with the real world problem.
• I learned from today's topic is that computers and programming are like superpower that this generations has been granted. It is an amazing skill to learn as this field is developing and is increasing. There will be so many job opportunities in the future with less people knowing about that since they are not familiar with coding/programming. What I also learned is that our privacy and data has not been secured because of the social media organization that steal and sell our data to different organizations.
• As far as I'm concerned, the iphone is indeed more stable and lasts longer than Android. But I think the iphone is too limited, being confined to an already designed system, unlike Android which can be cracked and installed with other programs that didnt designed by the designer. Of course the iphone can also be jailbroken, but I think this is to lose the meaning of the iphone, because you can clearly feel the life of the reduced.
• Today we learn about the difference between each phone system. IOS and android both has their length and weakness . Android system good at the development, developer can use many resource. IOS system is more secure

The most difficult thing for me to understand:

• Definitely the new plan for going back to in person. Its not that I don't understand it per say it just anything when it comes to covid right now it all feels a bit complicated when it comes to this new omicron varient. It's peaked in other places of the world but here in Saskatchewan it definitely hasn't peaked yet so I'm not sure that Febuary 7th date will work well for timing considering cases are rising still. This doesn't affect me as all my classes I picked remote for but still, it's confusing.

The thing about which I would most like to know more:

• Today we dicuss about what would we whether apple devices or android. It was expected by that iPhone will be preferred more over android,but it was totally opposite.The reason was that androids are more customizable and cheaper than iphone. But Someone told that iPhones are more secure. But I came to know with a video which says an hacker hacks iphone immediately after after launch. I came to know with a concern that whether iphone is more secure or android. I am using iPhone and I didnt great experience.
• After today's meeting, I would like to learn more about cyber crime, data enycrytption, and how laws are applied to people's data. The ted talk about wheather the government should have ascess to people's data is very concerning in our world today since every few months or so there is a news of a data breach/leak in government computers, huge social paltforms, or banking.
• How we can find an appropriate balance between individuals' right to privacy and the government's goal of enforcing certain laws.
• One thing that I would like to know more about after todays lecture is the laws around internet privacy and protection of user data. How does the government avoid these laws and take your data anyway?
• I was understanding little part of todays meeting as I just joined in few days back and I had almost no clue about the video that my fellow classmates watched.
• I would like to talk more about how data privacy affects our lives
• I would like to know more about how companies are able to keep taking data and information from others without consent and no one is punished. What is the purpose of having all the privacy settings and rules on apps, social media, websites, etc. if no one follows them. I do not understand how this is legal.
• Today we discussed privacy and collecting user data without proper permission especially through phones. I would like to know more about regulations and technical details regarding such as Canada privacy policies, User rights, Information protection acts, applications permissions, anonymous communication between phones and manufacturing servers, monitoring phone activities and processes.
• I would love to know more about the definition of a ‘moral operating system’ and if there are any criteria for an operating system to be considered ‘moral’. Just like Damon Damon Horowitz said in his TED talk if we should look at the guy’s data or leave him alone with his privacy and dignity. I am intrigued by the Golden Rule pointed out by him: “Do others as you would have them do you”. I would really like to explore and see if using this rule we could have a moral framework to guide our decisions.
• The thing about which I would like to know more relates to the second whiteboard question about accessing the guy’s data or not. I would like to know how companies are bound by ethics when it comes to data protection and privacy, and to what extent they can share/sell a user’s data without their explicit permission. Also, is a user able to opt out of a service after agreeing to the terms and conduction if they no longer want their data to be stored? The collection of data is interesting to me.
• How do phones retrieve certain user data? Sometimes when I'm talking to someone about a certain product/ item I get an ad 10 minutes later for that product on instagram and/or facebook. Is my phone always listening to my conversations or is it pure coincidence?
• I'd like to know more about the blown to bits book. I'm looking forward to reading more on the different topics enclosed in the pdf provided during today's lecture.
• The nuances to the pros and cons of looking at someone's data. I think that there is a lot of good that can be done by examining data, but I would love to learn more about the drawbacks of looking at the data.
• One thing about which I would most like to know more is how our participation marks are broken down, in more detail. Are our zoom contributions tracked and then we are given a mark based on how many contributions we have? Are the zoom participation marks half the total 10% participation mark, with the other 5% being attendance? More clarification would be appreciated.
• I want to know more about data collection and how in depth it goes. It is very interesting how our personal and our information is able to be viewed so easily through devices.
• I would like to learn more about how COVID has affected work in today's world and how working from home has impacted the world itself.
• I'd like to know more about how the participation marks work for the class. How exactly are they broken down and how do we get them.
• The discussion in the lecture today regarding the iPhone or Android quickly became sidetracked and there were a lot of unrelated comments and information which was hard to critically analyze. I second with Dr. Hepting's thoughts that whether this chaos actually means we are practicing our freedom of expression or it is distracting us from having the important conversations in our society. It leads to the question of comparison between the advancement in technology and existing laws in place.
• The thing that we talked about today that i would like to know more about is how the government and big corporations like google and other services farm and use our data. and wether or not it is even possible in this day and age to manage how much of your data is being collected. can you stop them or are they farming it anyway.
• We just discussed about iphone or andriod which one is better so it was kinda amazing like this is present scenario wherein both of the parties are trying hard to attract more and more people towards them with adding extraordinary features in smartphone but according to me which phone is it doesn't matter unless you can call & text a person !!!
• Banking is closely attached to our daily life. I have always wondered how the banking system works, and how they maintain such securities that are almost impossible to break through. Nowadays, almost all the banking system is online, which is quite impressive but amusing as well. We can do all kinds of work related to the bank just using the bank application. How would they maintain such applications and securities related to it?
• There was a good debate about android vs iphone
• I actually had no idea about the Canadian government used the pandemic in order to access cellular data. This really make one thing about the security and privacy rules related to the tech industry. Does new legislation need to be thought through in order to protect Canadians?
• Such a good discussion which allowed all students to participate and really feel involved. I personally did not understand why people felt it was necessary to fool around with the writing on the whiteboard but overall felt very able to participate and listen to everybody else’s responses.
• How do we come up to a conclusion to the problem about data consumption? What data is a fair amount to be collected and what kind is absolutely to be not collected?
• I would like to learn more about moral frameworks and just what people believe is the most morally correct option given different options. I would be interested in learning more about how to go about creating a moral framework and just how you could program that into a artificial intelligence.
• the relationship between different platforms and the information privacy
• the thing about which I would like to know more why are we collecting someone's data and where can we draw a line and more important what ethical decision should we make to set our moral code
• I would like to know more about the iPhone and android infrastructure. Such as How they provide security to the users and do they follow the same algorithms and strategies to do so.?
• I would love to learn more about the legal ramifications that companies face when breaking different rules. It would be interesting learning how the rules may have changed over the history of technology as humans decide what is 'moral

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