Mtg 11/26: Tue-13-Feb-2024

Outline for Today

Privacy, Assignments

Administration

Response to Responses

Response to responses

Today

Dark Patterns research paper
Answers to Quiz: all true
Professional Skills Assessment:
- Part 1 submission (5):
  - CIPS student membership card (2)
  - Certificate from completion of SkillsTX course (2)
  - Your Self-Rated Skills Profile Report (pdf file emailed to you from SkillsTX.com (1)
- Part 2 submission (10):
  - Edited version of Self-Rated Skills Profile Report (from Planner view – may not work in firefox, issue submitted)(1)
  - Select 2 job descriptions (use ‘current’ and ‘future’ for these) that you would like to pursue and generate skill gap reports(2)
  - Create action plans to address the skill gaps(5)
  - Reflect on the process and the importance of ethics in your chosen job descriptions(2)
Group discussion about what is needed to support privacy (focus on an example - from the text or the news

Summary

For Next Meeting

Submit your response to this meeting before noon tomorrow
Read Dark Patterns paper (link above)
Take quiz before the start of our next meeting

Wiki

Link to the UR Courses wiki page for this meeting

Media

Transcript

Audio Transcript

Hi I'm
James
Good afternoon
how's that?
I'm glad to hear the first three rows can hear me about the back.
Okay, how's everybody doing? Today?
You want to try to see him today?
assignments
before I get to that I want to let you know about the
opportunity or my encouragement of your suggestions for victory
exact questions.
Choice
welcome
your suggestions about questions
masters
so since the exam was on the 29th powder won't recover until
the end of this week so today and there's okay so that makes
sense so if you don't my questions and sound but I would
appreciate your input into with questions that
you could make for a fair assessment of learning to date
so what we've talked about in class and the things that I've
asked you to look at that seem okay so Scantron sheets for the
answers so that means instead of waiting for for me to mark 266
It sounds okay feedback a little quicker
so let's say when seen the forum post I made about midterm exam
suggestions you should get email about that. I think I forced you
to be subscribed to the forum
so
let me let's see I can.
So here is in the class discussions forum
so you can reply here
so if you reply to my original message, then the answers will
be at the same level instead of replying to other people's
replies deeply nested chain of best responses
so the quiz answer. The quiz is based on the three social rules
of privacy in the tech guys so chapter three
so the first one is great to have some protection of personal
information and
is part of the rate of self preservation.
So what's your feeling about the amount of stuff you post on
social media and do you think about this forming permanent
record of your your life for everyone to see. Maybe was a
little bit before maybe doesn't come up? First thing on Google
search and it's there for other people to see and to use.
Anyone concerned about that?
So I'll put up participation I'd love for you, sir. After class
so this is.
Anyone heard of reputation defender.com.
I saw the ad yesterday. It's been an all around for a number
of years. And maybe it's
because I was watching CNN I was curious to hear about the
reactions. Trump statement about starting World War three on both
sides. But the statement that Russia could do whatever the
hell they want. To NATO countries that don't pay their
share.
We live in a time so anyway, I was watching and
sad came up and said we had two people talking about they're
going to one potential client was talking to a potential
service provider and said I just have one question. Why do you
have bad reviews online? Garbage is still there. So?
What about the dragon pirate story
maybe I should give a brief brief Colorado Story
So this is one serious application of social media or
putting material on social media because even though it was only
intended for her friends, the social worker discretion was
working out about it. Then she she's encouraging greetings to
minors. The recorder and university decided to not get a
different education
So this is the second social role.
So it can lead to the evolution and development of social norms.
or societal norms.
So you can privacy allows us to test societal norms
so any examples?
Privacy being undermined in relation to certain societal
norms
this role is not respected
Yeah, with kids being posted without their consent, like what
do parents post about their kids or just post pictures of their
kids, their kids are consenting necessarily so privacy being
opened up kind of on those lines.
So I have enlace you tag me in photographs and I use.
So, what about the pronoun policy in Saskatchewan undermine
the societal growth of privacy. Yeah,
I would say in a way like if they have family that's not
supportive. Their feelings and privacy by having to go through
their parents
any other any comments.
place for kids to be allowed to express themselves
okay and the third anything else?
Even watch the football game on Sunday. Did you watch for the
football or swim or for Usher's ABS I didn't last time show. So
that was a comment that other people have made you know, I
know the use of roller skates
so maybe related to the second principle The third principle is
partially encouraged. So we can write ideas and solve without
develop them on our own before they become public knowledge
so I wanted to talk about it.
Dark patterns in relation to privacy
so these are patterns that appear in interfaces that impact
the way people behave, change
can change the way that they decisions and the way they can
gather information?
can think of them they might impact autonomy. So, the ability
of someone to make their own decisions
and one one that I mentioned is
privacy is occurring before Mark Zuckerberg
so the idea is this pattern hides the privacy protecting
options behind several layers of screens.
So, this is the paper. I'm asking you to look out for
tomorrow or next day. So this might be an example of Microsoft
using a dark pattern by obscuring their intent to use
personal data to train AI. So Mozilla asked a number of
experts to look at the service agreement and none of them could
answer whether personal data was the is very existence.
So I want to bring out the detail about the professional
skills assessment assignment so there's I'll make this available
on your courses
so there's two parts that we agreed on. So Monday, February
26 is part one and part two is due March 25. So for part one
submission, so the KIPP student membership card
so that's two marks so that's
an easy three marks
then another two marks for a certificate of completion of the
skills TX course so then when you complete the questionnaire
you'll get a self rated skills, your profile report. So this is
the preliminary version that gets emailed to you.
So attached to the assignment for submission. That's one mark.
Because it's related to part two submission. The edited version
of yourself reading skills profile report from the planner
view. So if you're using Firefox I had an issue
when I tried to load this in Firefox, just kept refreshing
the screen flashing pretty quickly so many people are using
Firefox Chrome
you stage you can use Safari
Chrome does the market share
suddenly the ACC will be resigning recently
so I'm using Firefox again. Support open source and really
foundation and I know for all these ideas
so there may be maybe to use a different browser when you get
to the planning stage. And so you can create an edited version
of your skills profile your self assess skills
so that's the other part of the three marks.
So then the next see there there's a spot for your current
position and your future position. So you don't have to
turn it down as current and future you can just build it as
a job one and job to identify two job descriptions the CPU as
clean as you'd like to do.
So the number of Canadian job descriptions that I wanted to
give you I think is 300 or some need your job descriptions. So I
hope that gives you enough
so you can find something that speaks to you in those job
descriptions. So then
once you've identified those job descriptions then you can
generate skill gap reports
so that's another two marks and then five marks for generate for
creating action plans to address the skill gaps
and then
appoint two marks for reflecting on the process and the
importance of ethics in your chosen job descriptions.
So that lasts for the last two items or the ones that require
you're being asked for something other than just me just using
the interface to the seals, dx, Sofia, tools,
courses for beginners, intermediate advanced all of
those surveys and they each take a different amount of time which
one was the one that you want it
doesn't matter. So So I did them all myself and I blocked out a
little bit with that. Wish my horse before I put it into a bit
more perspective.
So I think he could choose an early anymore you are in the
program. beginner version media because this this gives you a
preliminary least supportive
so it's it's a starting point. Makes sense.
Somebody submit the first part of the graphic so I want you to
when you submit the clear yourself or with a group of up
to four
about the submission of part one. But just so you know that
we'll have a mechanism to get your feedback about your whole
your group work together.
So once you pick a topic that is saturated and timely. Some
sources if you choose will be within the last six months.
So I wanted to say
don't want to do good way to much quantify the difference
between three to four times as many work orders, sources or
anything like that, but except a little bit more in depth. So if
you're in a group then you should have five sources.
more deaths current Cold War.
So groups should also plan for division of labor. So, therefore
we say this is the non binary plan. Just a little sense of
Yeah. Do you want our sources like listed on the infographic
or can they be on a separate page for submission?
Or you can see me where they make sense. They fit otherwise
Okay, I just wanted to lay that out for you. I said I was gonna
have that information. I haven't don't have it in your courses
yet. I will get that done today and tomorrow.
So I thought for now that we have groups so that we might
have another group discussion
so does that make sense what I've said
so it's not a practices
this is an absolute so what can we do to support a workable
definition of privacy in the sage maker, some of the examples
that are listed in that chapter or something it shouldn't be us
Tim Burton's was a previous version of
reset any questions? On that
you can save for the session
Yes, it says what is discussed needed to support privacy do you
mean like to help protect someone's privacy? Yeah, tools
or or laws or enforcement mechanisms
what what can we do to support what was important about privacy
in this day and age?
For example to preserve our autonomy or agency the idea that
if everybody knows everything about us, and we can choose to
reveal some things, some people other than other people managing
who gets to see what you create information about us. For
example
I feel more I need less clear the idea.
Less time to talk. So we have 10 minutes so you can begin to
groups and have a discussion about
seven summarize.
Up to say
evening think I'm like halfway
through so
much. Just I was
just
in case anything's.
Wrong check it out
you what's going
on name is right know like how do we get so many people boy boy
crystal sight
my
god evening I'd
like to do this
allowing users
to watch Stanford
because they just want to make and then it's pretty you're
going to take
notes which are individually assesses the Bronze Age
tribulation
like this story
no snake
you going to share something but this guy's obsession
for privacy I should
say hold on a
second yeah I know it's like a television show
I already know your story
us the day bye
let's get to
it looking forward
to is a great question.
Brother in law
so as we did like I say because
of welcome going to insert data
last one
okay
yes
you certainly on both sides
right it Right
right it Right

Responses

What important concept or perspective did you encounter today?

Dangers of sharing private information on public platforms.
Privacy and Civil Liberties
All the concepts discussed today is important.
Learn how Microsoft's new Service Agreement have delightfully ignore what they are planning to do with the data collected from the user
Talked more about assignment and group discussion on privacy
We talked about the midterms and assignments. Midterm discussions were helpful and informative, as well as clear instructions regarding the assignment details and submissions.
About the Dark Pattern Research Paper
Nothing in particular I have encountered today I thought is important.
There are 3 rights to privacy
we learnt about dark patterns in the privacy.
Today we discussed about infographic project on group and reviewed darkside of social media example
Midterm, personal skill assessment and privacy
How personal data is used to train ai
How do we regulate personal privacy in the age of social media
Privacy
privacy making people independent though significant was one of the most significant perspective i have encountered
Dark patterns in relation to privacy
Everything was important
We learned about the 3 different types 3 social roles of privacy with an example of drunken pirate
We encountered the important concept of when we draw the line between privacy and data collection. We went over things like when people's data should or can be violated for the greater good of a system or technology. Its not clear, and every situation seems to be different on where and how we decide when somebody's privacy should be violated, and when it important to protect somebody's privacy.
no
Privacy and boundary regarding it
Blown to bits, etc
Supporting privacy requires a combination of legal protections, technological solutions, ethical practices, awareness and education, accountability mechanisms, and international cooperation. These elements collectively establish a comprehensive framework to safeguard individuals' privacy rights in a digitalized world.
Today I learned about the 3 social roles of privacy. 1) The right to privacy of personal information is part of right to self-preservation. 2) Privacy is society's mechanism to allow for deviation from societal norms. 3) Privacy encourages independent thought.
Everything was important
An important concept was considering how privacy should be respected for children when it opposes the beliefs of their parents, especially on social media.
About privacy and why we should care
Privacy is a societal mechanism for incubating new ideas outside of the public eye.
Talking about exam and its questions for it and then the group assigning for the assignment
no
childrens rights to privacy
The right to self preservation
The Lack of Conceptual Foundation in defining and understanding dark patterns.
We followed up on the previous topic of privacy.
Privacy
Today, I discussed how privacy can be regulated and in which ways that privacy can be proven.
An important perspective I encountered today was the effect of social media on one’s life, especially with the drunken pirate story. I did not realize that an Instagram post that was meant for friends could have that much of an impact that the university decided she wouldn’t be able to graduate with her education degree. It puts it into perspective that “nothing goes away” like the koans covered in blown to bits chapter 1.
The important concept I encountered today was the expansion of the three social roles of privacy. This was important since it provided me with information I could not have gathered from the textbook.
Dark pattern research paper
the privacy according to blownto bit chapter 3
Privacy is essential to independent thought because with no privacy no independent thinking occurs. You need privacy to formulate independent opinions because independent means to be by ones self. Everyone is subject to their own thought and without privacy it is hard for that to happen.
privacy
The research paper on dark patterns.
The perspective I encounter today was What Makes a Dark Pattern... Dark?: Design Attributes, Normative Considerations, and Measurement Methods this research paper
today I learned about privacy and why its important that we have it for cs
An important concept we went over today was the 3 Privacy Roles of Society. One role: Privacy is important for independent think and I think that is very important for anyone. It is hard enough to find opinions online when a lot of people either bandwagon or do not want to be deemed as "wrong". So online its hard to speak freely with your own thoughts without those people who want to ruin your day. So, overall privacy is very important for independent thinking.
I found it interesting that there were more measures needed to insure privacy, I never thought too hard on what it meant to implement it.
The concept of privacy of personal information and the right to self preservation.
About Privacy
Privacy is something that should be looked at closely because everyone has the right to keep their lives private if they choose
We talked about the importance of privacy and how it promotes new ideas. We talked about how someones image can be ruined over social media posts like the "Drunk Pirate" example.
3 social roles of privacy
Today we saw key points on rights, discussed about assignment and midterm
An important perspective i learnt today was about privacy and the three social rules of privacy in the information.
Everything
about midterm
About Privacy and How social media affects it
We focused more in depth about privacy and the midterm question types
Professional skills assessment
I dont find anything important today.
Regarding privacy professor explained in detail and also about assignments, midterm etc.
About the 3 privacy rules
Today we discussed about midterm and more on privacy.
Syllabus for midterm
We talked more in detail about the three different social roles of privacy. One of the overarching ideas of social privacy is that it allows people to "have a life" outside the public eye. Furthermore, it can allow more independant thought or a way to be more personal.
Today we discussed about the quiz question and everything was true few points about what do we need to submit the assignment
In my group, we talked about the importance of restricting a company's access to their user's information and creating more laws that will benefit the general public but might not be liked by tech companies.
Thinking about privacy in more of a conceptual way changes my understanding of what privacy truly means. I never considered the possibility of privacy to deviate from social/societal norms. In this regard, privacy is more one's own internal wants.
Dark pattern in relation to the privacy
Privacy
about midterms and assignments
Privacy and its 3 types
Today's lesson covered Privacy. We were taught the 3 Social Roles of Privacy and some related terms, like "Privacy Zuckering," named after Mark Zuckerberg. We were also informed about the implications of social media and how we should take caution on what we post ("Drunken Pirate" incident). We learned some of the pros of privacy, such as how it can facilitate evolution and development of societal norms as a response to new situations, as well as facilitating independent thought.
3 SOCIAL RULES OF PRIVACY,
An important concept I encountered today is the right to privacy of personal information
The format of the mid term and assignment 1
things about Dark Patterns
About research paper
About Midterm and privacy concepts
Midterm discussion was informative and important.
Dark Concepts Research Paper
security
infographic part 1
Blooms taxonomy
Today we learned about privacy and its importance to consumers with private information.
Good things takes time
An important concept we encountered today was the 3 social rules of privacy; 1. rights to privacy of personal information is part of right to self-preservation, 2. privacy is society's mechanism to allow for deviation from norms., 3. privacy encourage independent thoughts. Another thing we encountered today was the dark patterns that relate to privacy, and how it impacts autonomy.
What people do in private can permit the evolution of societal norms
Nothing stood out
from chapter 3 of blown to bits
First, right to primacy of personal information is part of right to self-presentation. Second, primary is society's mechanism to allow for deviation from social norms. Third, privacy encourages independent thought.
Privacy
The tactics and methods to support a user's privacy on any given software or platform, and the negative ethical implications of doing otherwise
I learned about digital footprint
privacy as society's mechanism
What is needed to support privacy.
Privacy, and its importance towards the rights of citizens. With privacy being infringed upon, its a violation of one’s right to one’s agency and reputation
I got to know different types of dark patterns for research.
Dark Patterns research paper.
Not that much
Administration
About the privacy of ours, Like an example of Microsoft one
Three rules of privacy.
we discussed about midterm patterns and question
We learned about privacy and the importance of understanding it in relation to software.
midterm and assignment
Privacy
about privacy in the internet world.
information regarding midterm
Dark Patterns
Three rules of privacy
Reacher paper of dark pattern
What makes a dark pattern dark?
Privacy
Privacy
Dark Patterns research paper
ICT
Everything taught was important
Three rules of privacy.
I learned about how the design and patterns of interfaces can persuade a user into doing certain things
I learned more about privacy and some concerns regarding invasion of privacy, more specifically for children that are posted on social media.
The concept of 3 social rules of privacy mentioned by fano is important to know the perfect meaning of privacy
The important concepts I encountered today were the 3 social roles of privacy. I learned about how the right to privacy of one's personal information is part of the right to self preservation. I also learned how privacy is society's mechanism to allow deviation from the social norms, and encourages independent thought for trying out new ideas.
The three important parts of privacy mentioned by fano were very important. This concept is very important as it illustrates perfect privacy
It was interesting to hear my colleagues' perspective on what is needed to support privacy.
About dark pattern
I learned more concepts about the privacy and examples of it

Was there anything today that was difficult to understand?

No, it made sense.
not really
Everything is good
No
Nope, today was very informative and helpful.
Nothing today was too difficult to understand
Nothing was too difficult to comprehend today.
nothing today was hard to understand no everything made sense.
no
Everything was understandable
No
The assignment part is still confusing
No
no there was not in today lecture
No
No it was understandable
no
How tagging someone in the post disturb their privacy
No
No, I didn't encounter any difficulties understanding the tasks or information today. Everything was quite straightforward and easy to follow.
No
Tool to protect privacy
I found it a little bit difficult to understand exactly what is required for the first submission for the infographic. I felt the instructions were very broad and I would like more clarity on how much and which parts of the infographic need to be submitted for march 11.
N/a
no
all the extra rules that come with
No
No, everything is explained fully!
maybe on how to do the infographic assignment
No
No.
No
the infographic
none
No
The assignment was hard to understand and want need explanation on it
nothing was difficult to understand today
nope
The left side of the board was hard to read though I did follow along and will catch up with the notes later if possible.
No
Nothing was difficult to understand today
Dark pattern in relation to privacy but I will read it up
I was not able to understand which membership card we need to submit
NO
Nothing
no
no
No
No
No, I understand everything.
No, everything was easy.
Rule 1. Right to privacy of personal information is a part of right to self preservation
No
Dark Patterns in Relation to Privacy
The definition privacy zuckering didn't seem too clear to me.
I didn’t understand the assignment thing
Nothing was difficult to understand today.
no
No
Nope there was nothing difficult today to understand
Not really
Until what day does the Midterm cover up to again?
NO
No there was nothing difficult for me to understand
No
no
Not really
no
No, it was great class today.
Nothing
no
not really
No
Not really today.
No
today it was a bit difficult to see the right side of the white boards
No
No
nope
There was nothing difficult to understand.
No
I took the topic well and understood due to the combination of the lecture and the group discussions
no
the cips activation and which one to do for assessment the beginner or intermidate
No.
I don't think there was anything difficult to understand.
nope.
No
No
Not really.
nope, everything was pretty good to understand
Nope, everything made sense.
no
Nothing at all
nothing
no
Nope
Nothing
No.
No
No
No
No
No everything was pretty easy to understand
There wasn't anything difficult to understand in today's lecture.
no
Nope, I was able to understand everything that happened in class today.
no not really.
No, nothing was difficult to understand today.
no
not at all

Was there anything today about which you would like to know more?

I would like to know how to share private information on social media safely.
more details about Privacy and Civil Liberties
Just the next topics of our class
Wondering if maximum people use Chrome, and most of us save their password, address, name, contact info and much more for quick filing the form, how badly it can impacts humanity, or in other words, how easily that much data can be trained to AI and how it will impact in future
More about midterm
Privacy Zuckering is unethical and people/company that implements it should be penalize. I feel like almost all apps do this trick, what can be done or options to limit them from doing this? There should be steps users can do to protect us against it.
I am good for now
Nothing I'd like to know more. I am personally burnt out.
how much protection you hav ehave on you relectronic devices.
no
I think today’s information was enough and understandable
No
More details on mid term and assignment
More about privacy
i would like to know more privacy and open-sources effect on each other.
Privacy zuckering
No It was all understandable
no
What will be the questions on the midterm?
No
I'm interested in learning more about the characteristics and tactics that differentiate dark patterns from standard design practices, as well as their impact on user behavior and ethics in user interface design
No
I would've loved to see more applications to the three principles surrounding privacy. While there were a good portion of relevant examples happening right now, I think adding in some more recent examples would have helped some people grasp the idea a bit more.
None
N/a
no
specific ins and outs and why the laws are the way they are
Is the right to self-preservation inherent, or does it depend on legal and societal contexts?
Probably more questions on assignments but I'll probably be covered next class.
not really
Yes. I want to known more about privacy
I would like to know more about why certain companies can provide less information about their users privacy than others.
Skill assessment
more about the infograpgic
none
No
As above need more information about assignment and midterm
I would like to know more about the outline of the midterm and what type of questions are on it
Is there a way to purge data after a certain amount of time?
I was unaware of websites like ReputationDefender.com and was curious about how they accomplish their services.
No
Requirements for the Infographic
i would like to learn more about the privacy and legality .
If one happens to appear on the background of a picture posted online, do you have the right to sue whoever posted the picture for violating your privacy?
I would like to know few things about midterm
I would like to no more on Professional Skills in the information society.
Nothing
no
all things were clear enough
Syllabus on the material to read for midterm
Part 1 and 2 submission
Nothing important I saw today, which I like to know more.
No, thank you.
About dark patterns of research papers
Yeah I would like to know more about what kind of questions would be on midterm.
Midterm exam Questions
I would like to more about dark patterns and privacy zuckering and how common these things are in the digital space.
I want to look more into what company's in the past have had issues surrounding the topic of privacy, and what they have done to solve these issues if they have tried to do so. The early version of the Tim Hortans app for example.
I would like to know more about midterms
I would like to know more about what privacy looks like. Since privacy is broad and conceptual, what other ideas might arise when referring to privacy?
no
No
yes like what topic will come in the midterms and expain more about the individual assignment
No
I am excited for the content that will be presented to us in the class!
NO
Nothing really.
Not reallt
ACM web, really has some interesting thing there
About The partition of assignments
what sections are neccesay for midterms
Everything seems perfect and understandable.
Dark concept research paper
no
more on the assignment part 2
No
No, not really.
No
more about dark patterns relating to privacy
Other ways privacy is not being respected
No
nothing
I want to know more about the questions will be included in midterm.
Privacy
I would like to look into more examples of privacy misconduct in prominent companies
no
more about midterm syllabus before the reading week
No.
I'd like to know more details about dark patterns for research.
i would like to know more about Dark paper pattern.
No
Not really I understood the concept
I want to know more about the privacy things
yes, i would like to know more about the question of midterm
Learning about more examples would be helpful to really grasp the understanding of it, and also give different perspectives on different ideas of privacy and what could be improved.
no
I would like to know more abut the roles of privacy
no there was less attractive topics today ,so none.
no
Nope
Dark pattrens
Not much
No.
Privacy
Privacy
No
No
No I understood most of the part
I would just like to look further into some more examples of where this might be seen
I would like to know more about the dark patterns in privacy, and possibly some other case studies regarding privacy.
I would like to know about the third social rule of privacy. Privacy is essential to the development of independent thought
I would like to learn more about privacy encrypting and dive into how it works. I am also interested in the benefits and the consequences of relying on such a technology.
is our information we put online really secured?
The repercussions of the "Drunken Pirate" story.
about cips assignment.
More examples pls

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