Mtg 13/36: Mon-03-Oct-2022

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  • oh seven figured out why it's not recognizing my schedule meetings for class constantly notetaking anyway so, we have the individual assignment one do today are there any questions? Yeah.
  • They're required number of items.
  • Now I don't think there are more than one has that So, I gave you the target page. Yeah. So I don't mean you have to have a full page but more than one sentence and not another full page with 14 like fun either. So just use judgment on the target. Page lengths are just to be valid for you. So there's not a hard and fast rule. You had a question for you. The the goal is the bottom at the bottom so just focus on the quadrants or empathy mafia. I've gotten a couple of notes about some security issues where people can see other people's student numbers. So if you'd like to report those to me, I'll send them along and we can we can tweet being a teacher for learning roles. So we send a lot to me somehow. I would appreciate that. Okay. You can use the participation discussion forum. For example.
  • By saying or thinking while doing your process, or like what do you mean by saying like this is a project, but you're just like
  • confused. About that. Say When You Want me to show the barcode the QR code for attendance,
  • I'll do that first. Pretty close to the false bottom of the window so anyone happy the Alouettes beat the MTA Elks on the weekend
  • Okay, that's sorry You're excused. That means the rays can still make the playoffs are nice. I guess.
  • Anyway, okay empathy. Okay, so those are the four quadrants right now in a particular order. So, does is probably the easiest one I mean, it's the most straightforward as you say. Take the cap off my marker and write on the board. That's what I'm doing. So that, that's pretty straightforward. So we can observe that. And when you're observing yourself, you have to take a step. Back to say okay, now I'm doing this you know, there are many things maybe that you riding a bike or something you don't always think about all the steps involved because you just know how to do it. So to speak, or whatever else when I'd rather activity and pick up the comes naturally to you. You don't think about the steps that you didn't think about when you were learning to do that activity.
  • So as asking yourself, what you're doing to accomplish something in the interactive interface. That's fairly straightforward. I think
  • that what's next maybe that's maybe easiest. And maybe says it's also on the easy side because you can just say
  • suppose if you're really a method actor, perhaps or something, you're really getting into the role of being a teacher of the interface. Maybe you just turn your voice recorder on and then you can just imagine yourself getting into the role and then they'd see what you say and as you work through that. I'm not saying you need to do that. I'm just as an example, is that example, helping or causing me to scratch your head further? Okay, any one scratch? No. No Okay. All right. So what what you're doing so maybe recall the steps that you're going through okay, now I have to do this. I wish I didn't have to click so much. You can see this as my experience with your courses. Like that. I glad to be a wish I didn't have to click so much.
  • Because everything seems to need to have 10 times as many mouse clicks as I would like to
  • use so when we're dealing with other people. When we're giving, asking them to use an interface to do something we might ask him to think user think aloud protocol.
  • Imagine what that is right. So when you're doing something explain what you're thinking about when you're doing that. So if you get if you get in the habit of thinking about what you're doing and talking about it for yourself and imagine what it'd be like for you or I'm not sure if he's becoming more helpful or less helpful, so you've helped me so imagine that someone else is giving you this. You can think about someone else giving you the task to complete as well the failing teacher per learning user in your courses. And then you imagine yourself taking that on and then speaking so the says part for them female may not not at all just your inner voice but some things you might say out loud, like we're clicking. For example, that's what I might say. Like any state would say, in common but using certain interfaces on your courses
  • so that feels it's a little bit less subjective. It's about what you're feeling. I'm feeling frustrated and are feeling dissatisfied because I can just I have a goal in mind and I can just accomplish that goal by setting things up in your courses. Right, so that's more here. That's more of a user experience, kind of
  • description so if I help you so questions not sure. Okay. Anyone else have questions? Okay, so I have an office hours today. How many people have tried to reach me on my office hour and have not been successful?
  • Well, it's good and bad. Good that I haven't missed anybody, but I'm just sitting there. are still anyway. Feel like I'm somewhat off topic now. Let me. So where do we end up last? Day with metaphor discussion in our discussion of metaphors? We talked about cavemen
  • Yes. And the writing on bathroom stalls. So we can think of what's possible the goal of the metaphor is to help people understand what's possible. So if I say it's like punching a timecard or it's like, creating cave art leaving the cave art one is a little bit less and less practical, let's say the name maybe punching a timecard is a little bit more, more straightforward. Maybe that's more easily transferable to the idea of taking attendance.
  • What about the fingerprint? fingerprint? I would say that's not necessarily a metaphor. Let's write it down anyway. Let's think about it using
  • are face ID maybe. So maybe what we need is a metaphor to describe that
  • it's a secure server the only person only the person who's in attendance can record their attendance. So since this isn't here to apologize again. So if you are going to indicate that synthesis was here so that you could do that as a punching a timecard you grab her card for her but if it's if it's a secure timecard that requires some biometrics. It's much harder to do.
  • So let's think about it. Do you have a comment? Say that
  • sort of like a fossil
  • fossil paper here so dinosaurs are here then the issue is when are they here? They are probably here before class started. And they were gone before class started as well. So what are the things we can do as a tenants in your courses. Or what does the attendance in your courses provide us and what could it provide us?
  • That maybe? Maybe isn't, isn't clear from the way we talk about. So once a new way of talking about attendance that
  • we could support advanced functions. Does that make sense? So it's more than just saying you're here because we can say
  • so maybe it's more it's more like a punch card. punching a card because we can indicate when when we said we are here we can also not only attendance allows for this but we can say I was a lot I started here and I'm punching out a certain time as well.
  • So what other functions could be possible with your course attendance function? And what kind of metaphors can we think of to describe how to access those functions for people? I think the idea of signing out for attendances a big can of worms I don't want to get into actually but this is a little bit like a discussion from last week about the system keep track of us so you know when we're locked in. So we know when just to notice when you're gaudy and nice, so to speak, when we log in and what we're doing with the system or your course session and then when we log out. So a little bit of a group discussion so. So how do we describe it was a metaphor Okay, so those two things to think about Does that make sense? Well, so, attendance could could provide some kind of extra function. So just so right now you can record attendance and it doesn't matter when you do it during the session.
  • So maybe that's all right. But I'm asking if there are if there are things that instruction could do that would be helpful to you.
  • Saving features does that make sense? It's 10 o'clock. So I'm gonna spend five minutes talking about that. That'll get back together and then we'll get into project groups. So we'll talk about project groups. Make sure I was clear about that before at the end of our session today okay, discuss you sorry. It you You think about duct tape right that have to do with you take a picture from time to time to have to change the world right So, basically I want to talk to you You ever seen LSVT loud guys that work on Patreon morning day been waiting for more than two hours elementary school there are lawsuits or similar things think this video most likely be for the fire going on literally on still don't like want to get out my door
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  • okay should we get together last year was a very I don't have the outdoor you are the shirt okay everyone. So if you're comfortable or you are let's just say in our positions we'll have a quick a quick recap of our group discussions and then I'll ask you to get into your project groups. So everyone's familiar with your project groups. Okay, so anything that came up from your discussion about the possibilities for your course attendance. Yeah.
  • This isn't just your ability to mark yourself as present to the first 15 minutes of class. Figure out if you can do it but then I got mad at your courses because it sucks gonna do it when you get to class before you get to us. files the odds are once you get to class you're going to take a picture
  • see seems to be so maybe I mean I can do I can. I can do something like that by saying from 939 45 I could do it
  • but then I have to remember to show you the attendance between that range of time and if I don't have a QR code or don't have a password then that's another issue as time goes
  • on, from President to late so when I saw a fight, I show you the QR codes and maybe five minutes the next five minutes you need to design an app is a tiny little bit of something
  • that nobody looks
  • at Okay, so. Okay, so how about some good discussions? Maybe we'll talk for a few minutes on Wednesday morning. Now, what I want you to do is so everybody should be in a project group. Maybe not everyone's aware of the project group you're in
  • so some of you are I think so you should be able to I'm not in a project group I dislike for project group and members. You shouldn't be able to see the three people or four people in your group
  • Okay, so is that as everyone access that is Are you clear about that? So if there are some changes that you want me to make, you just need to talk to everybody and make sure that's okay. And then telling me I can I can make the switch. So the first part of the project is due on the 12th. So it's a week from Wednesday. So we'll talk about that in more detail on Wednesday also. Is there a deadline?
  • There's always a possibility we'll talk about that again. So everyone's happy with the project group or you're gonna tell me today
  • okay, and if you want me to make changes, make sure you talk to everybody involved. So I still end up with groups of 416 groups of four plus one. Okay, so I didn't expect everyone to be so happy with the way things are set up. I thought there'd be more discussion. Okay. So we want to talk more about attendance. Last four minutes. Yeah.
  • So this feature Firstly, it's bound by the last time and what it is to take a selfie. So you have to take a picture, attach a picture. And so record the picture and the timestamp. So what the metaphor for that is just like showing up I guess the professor was no everyone to check the names. We think it was required. The fact that professor to check the selfies to make sure it's in the classroom
  • yeah
  • as timestamps.
  • When you I heard you talked about this earlier I thought about the P real. So, these are posts these posts on the geekly fun options right. People wouldn't say proper track is fun. I think you're gonna say
  • probably encryption of the attendance password along with limiting the time.
  • About people in the back and the ideas their garage your name properly. Anyway. Any ideas in the back?
  • Yeah, we are talking about summarization of companies out there any other last thoughts about attendance? Yeah, so
  • maybe like sort of awkward every time and you don't have that much been said beforehand? I'd say like the five minutes answer to my friends I can because I'm doing
  • okay. So that you in the back there.
  • We can discuss avoiding loss and then added as a response. To the meeting in this recording class Okay, last
  • one here.
  • Like you can make us watch your video informative video and we can respond to it within like two to three minutes. So that those who are not here
  • okay, as an answer question I'll take a better picture. Thanks. Anyway, so think around a time maybe some clothes anyway. Okay, so we'll continue our discussion on Wednesday. Have a good Monday. Take care Thank you for today it's other chairs. You're
  • okay, as an answer question I'll take a better picture. Thanks. Anyway, so think around a time maybe some clothes anyway. Okay, so we'll continue our discussion on Wednesday. Have a good Monday. Take care Thank you for today it's other chairs. You're

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